S.W.A.T.(tin) Legals Back and Forth - Epic Halibut Battle!

[skunked4life]

Prologue:
It has been awhile since I had time to sit down and write up a proper report. It seems as though I have alot more free time on my hands lately, yet all of that free time has been R.S.V.P.'d by life. Does that make any sense? So....whatever little free time I have for fishing needs to count! I know that there have been a few posts about skunks, not catching legal halibut, etc... This report will be chock full of action, but if you blink, you WILL miss my point. So please sit back and enjoy the ride...

Friday 0329/2014:
AO: Classified OC Beach
Time: 6:00 am to 8:15 am
Conditions: 1 foot swells, warmer waters, light breeze, mild salad
Gear: LC's only

Had all morning to fish today. Called up my buddy Alex (aka "Hongster" if he ever registers for FNN). :Rolls Eyes:
Got to the AO and geared up fast. Started casting in the dark and were met with light salad. About 45 minutes in, I hooked into a nice YFC. About 14 inches? Let Alex have the photo op.
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The rest of the morning kind of went sour after that. Met up with Remington (aka K-dub), Kenichi and Kelly. We all scattered and kept missing bites. Something was hitting our lures but nothing committed while we were there.

My wife calls at about 8:00 am. She NEVER calls me. Something must be up. My oldest child was sick and throwing up everywhere. Alex says, "let's go...he is more important. We can fish another time." What a guy.

Sunday 03/30/2014:
Saturday morning I get texts from our scout (K-dub). He tells me that its on! Later, Don (Bachiboy) texts me. Game on guys! Even later that night, Alex calls me and says that he just got done working an overtime shift directing traffic because of the earthquakes and aftershocks. He needs some salt water therapy. Game on!!!!

AO: Classified OC beach
Conditions: Better than the day before
Gear: LC's only

Get to the spot and start casting. Salad, salad, salad...AFter about 30 minutes, we see Don and Kelly off in the distance. We head over to meet them. Don makes his FIRST cast and BOOM...a shortie!
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Then, Kelly hooks into one. Oh great...a short fest!

I tell Alex to get in there and get into the bite. We cast and cast. Kelly hooks into a couple of more shorts and the Don lands a BEAST in the trough in right in front of him. Alex says to me, Don really takes his time and makes it seem so easy. Yes Grasshopper, watch and learn. Don beaches the halibut and I see that this one is big! Tapes out at 28 inches.
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AFter a quick release, we get back into the fun. Kelly is on fire over in his area. He lands a legal and a couple of more shorts.

Alex gets bit and loses the fish. Meanwhile, I don't seem to be getting anything right. I am bird's nesting left and right. I am casting way too close to Don and Alex (can't seem to cast straight out). Then I **** back my rod to cast and let go of my thumb. The LC drops to the sand (almost) and Don just laughs. Wow, just last Sunday, I was a super star with a 30/30 and today, I am a rookie! In fact, I hook into a nice fish and it unbuttons immediately. Don says " I saw that!" :LOL::LOL::LOL::Embarrassed: I even hook into kelp and think it is a halibut. Oh my.

My goal today was to get Alex onto his first legal. Well, next thing I know, Don is coaching Alex in and his rod is full on bendo! Way to go! He beaches the fish and the LC pops out. We run to grab it and get it to safety. I quickly lay my rod down to use the taped mark. It's LEGAL! We measure and it comes to 23 inches!
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He decides to keep it. He is married and this is his 6th time out. Wifey was beginning to frown upon our fishing ventures. Well, this fish certainly earned Alex some hall passes.

Pay attention here! Now, I was super stoked for my friend. I was screaming and hollering. Just so proud of him! BUT--you know, I want one too. I go into prayer and ask forgiveness for feeling jealousy and coveting Alex's fish. IMMEDIATELY, I am rewarded with one of my own! I fight him onto the beach and know for sure it is legal. Tapes out at 24 - 25inches?
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Kelly hooks into another one. His rod is full on bendo but it is such a noodle rod (you saw that jab coming didn't you Kel?) I could not tell how big. I make my way over and lay my rod down for him. Yeah, it is legal. About 23 inches.

Back to it. I cast and cast. I hook into a short. Alex hooks into one but loses it. Kelly gets another short.

My turn! I get hit from far out. It doesn't fight worth a dime but it has heft to it. I beach it and Don and I measure it. I say 27 inches.
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That's 14 legals for the year! Woohoo!

The bite slowed a bit after that and Alex and I had to head to church. PTN stopped by in regular clothes right as we were leaving. What? Peter, did you forget something? Silly rabbit...GET YOUR GEAR! Heard that he and Raneman did well but I will let them tell that story.

Thanks Don for taking the pics and coaching Alex this morning! Wow, he was really stoked to meet you and land his first legal! Also, Thanks Don for dialing ME in. I needed that! Kel, you were on fire today my friend! Let's do it again soon! :Wink:

What an epic day!

Thanks for reading.

Skunked4life


Epilogue:
Be patient, do your homework, engage in fellowship. It is that simple. Don't fish on tilt like I did. As soon as I dialed it down (me - not the gear) and took in a deep breath and let go, I was rewarded - twice! Just breathe - right Don? That's what you always tell me? Sound advice. It will happen guys. For all of you--if you just keep at it. Don't worry about others, don't worry about how long it takes. Enjoy the ride. I forget that all too often. Tight lines everyone.

[bones]

WOW.....Your on fire Ken. R U sure you are not fishing in a halibut hatchery? :ROFL:

Guess us northern boyz gotta rely on catching the 40 inchers up here...LOL
As always my friend Great report after an epic day. Keep up the great work!

[bachiboy]

Well, put another EPIC outing in the books. The look on Alex's face when he landed that fish was priceless...the complete opposite of how you looked after missing the first few fish.:ROFL: Just remember, it's just fishing...have FUN brotha!!! It all comes around...and did, two-fold for you.:Wink: It's a great learning experience too. Losing fish in a great bite like that will help you succeed when it's more of a "one bite, one fish" scenario. Wish we coulda had a repeat performance today, but them dang fish pulled a WSB now you see 'em, now you don't move on us. Really weird disappearing act they performed in 24 hours. Always great to spend time on the sand with all of you regardless. Hope to do it again soon!

Don

[tamddo714]

wow awesome report! good job finding them!

[benichi]

man you guys are good. one of these days I will have to buy you guys dinner for a little lesson.

great report. awesome fishing...

hope your kid is all good.

see ya guys on the beach!!!

[basshole1]

I just posted on my first hali from the surf and I have to say, you guys are killers out there!! I need me a couple of those. Awesome!!

[SP Dan]

Hi ya Ken,

This is only the end of March and you've already beached 14 legals! :Big Smile::Applause: What an amazing :Envious: year that you are having my friend!
Maybe when you are not too busy .... you could show me how it's done! I've become a bit rusty and have forgotten everything from too much time spent :Tired: on my back!

Thanx for the excellent read with pic's my Brotha! :Cool:

SP Dan <"))><

[remington]

Ken,

Is that you Santa Claus? Brother, your generosity is so very much appreciated, I hope you know that! Again, thank you for the early Christmas present. The last gift resulted in a 39" & I can't wait to see what type of giant this one will produce?

That was one Hell of a report. I think I will start calling you Hemingway. You write extremely well & it's a absolute pleasure to read your reports. I don't know what it is, but every time I share the sand with you & Don it just turns out to be a magical day for all of us! I was so happy for your friend Alex. You & Don saved the day as that fish was going back to the drink if you had not masterfully swooped in to preserve Alex's 1st legal halibut. Well done guy's you are both class acts & world class fisherman! I am honored to be able to call you both my friends. I have learned so much from your knowledge you've bestowed upon me, again, thank you!

I look forward to sharing the sand again with you both real soon!

Kelly

[yakfish51]

Great day on the beach, thanks for the report.

Tim
:Big Grin:

[troublehook]

Wow again Ken, you got it going on bro. :Applause:
Love the report and it gives me inspiration to get out there to catch my first legal Halibut. :Big Grin:

[TUNAVIC]

That was quite a day or morning,you guys must of really been pumped up after that session,thanks for the report and pics!

Cya Tuna Vic

[skunked4life]

Bump for MORE pictures! :Smile:

[Wingnut]

Hey Ken... can you see me in your rear view mirror? I'm that tiny speck way back there... :LOL:
Oh boy, you're gonna be really tough to catch, especially with my once a month surf outings, lol
You've come a long way my friend and I'm proud to see you improve as an individual and an angler.
The way you handle family life, unexpected adversities and still find time to improve your fishing game is commendable. :Cool:
I shoulda fished with you guys on Sunday... my original plan to fish was a wash out... damn it! :mad:
Congrats to all who caught legals on Sunday, well done! :Applause:

[PTN]

Well this seems like an echo but great job again!! :Cool: I would have been out there earlier with you guys but I had a bit too much to drink the night before but I did manage to show up right when I saw you catch that legal. I was looking and thought to myself, "that has to be Ken with that big hali", and sure enough it was. I enjoyed watching the show you guys put on and even inspired me to jump into my car and throw my gear on even though I wasn't planning to :LOL:.

Congrats again my friend and to your buddy. Keep it up.

-Peter

[Raneman]

Way to go guys! When Peter told me that you guys were already killing it I knew it was going to be a good day. Sorry I just missed you out there. You are definitely on fire Ken!

-Raney

[skunked4life]

WOW.....Your on fire Ken. R U sure you are not fishing in a halibut hatchery? :ROFL:

Guess us northern boyz gotta rely on catching the 40 inchers up here...LOL
As always my friend Great report after an epic day. Keep up the great work!

Thanks Mike. You know, I never thought 30 inches would be in my cards, but now, I may have to try for that 40 incher while its hot. You never know when the tides (no pun intended) will turn on this streak!


Well, put another EPIC outing in the books. The look on Alex's face when he landed that fish was priceless...the complete opposite of how you looked after missing the first few fish.:ROFL: Just remember, it's just fishing...have FUN brotha!!! It all comes around...and did, two-fold for you.:Wink: It's a great learning experience too. Losing fish in a great bite like that will help you succeed when it's more of a "one bite, one fish" scenario. Wish we coulda had a repeat performance today, but them dang fish pulled a WSB now you see 'em, now you don't move on us. Really weird disappearing act they performed in 24 hours. Always great to spend time on the sand with all of you regardless. Hope to do it again soon!

Don


wow awesome report! good job finding them!

Looking for them is half of the fun! Thanks and congrats again on your success!


man you guys are good. one of these days I will have to buy you guys dinner for a little lesson.

great report. awesome fishing...

hope your kid is all good.

see ya guys on the beach!!!

Dinner? No need. That is why we are posting our reports...for you guys to read and learn from the bits and pieces of useful info that we try to provide. Keep at it and maybe we will cross paths one day?


I just posted on my first hali from the surf and I have to say, you guys are killers out there!! I need me a couple of those. Awesome!!

Patience. Now that you have tasted your first halibut from the surf, the pressure lessens and the legal(s) will follow!


Hi ya Ken,

This is only the end of March and you've already beached 14 legals! :Big Smile::Applause: What an amazing :Envious: year that you are having my friend!
Maybe when you are not too busy .... you could show me how it's done! I've become a bit rusty and have forgotten everything from too much time spent :Tired: on my back!

Thanx for the excellent read with pic's my Brotha! :Cool:

SP Dan <"))><

Dan! You are always welcome to join the party! Let's talk some more later this week. No fishing for me until at least Sunday. Keep us posted on your "backyard" so that we can attack it together real soon!


Ken,

Is that you Santa Claus? Brother, your generosity is so very much appreciated, I hope you know that! Again, thank you for the early Christmas present. The last gift resulted in a 39" & I can't wait to see what type of giant this one will produce?

That was one Hell of a report. I think I will start calling you Hemingway. You write extremely well & it's a absolute pleasure to read your reports. I don't know what it is, but every time I share the sand with you & Don it just turns out to be a magical day for all of us! I was so happy for your friend Alex. You & Don saved the day as that fish was going back to the drink if you had not masterfully swooped in to preserve Alex's 1st legal halibut. Well done guy's you are both class acts & world class fisherman! I am honored to be able to call you both my friends. I have learned so much from your knowledge you've bestowed upon me, again, thank you!

I look forward to sharing the sand again with you both real soon!

Kelly

To teach is to learn twice. To give is to receive twice. My time, my resources, my knowledge belongs to all of my friends. Heard that there is something great brewing in your future here! Let's talk about how to get 'er dun!


Great day on the beach, thanks for the report.

Tim
:Big Grin:

Tim, thanks for the reply! Any day on the beach whether by yourself or with friends is a great day on the beach!


Wow again Ken, you got it going on bro. :Applause:
Love the report and it gives me inspiration to get out there to catch my first legal Halibut. :Big Grin:

Sokha, you gotta give the Commander some of your poker mojo in order to get some of his fishing mojo! :LOL: Just do everything that Arthur says (like being on time to pick him up) and you will get yours. OR---shoot me a PM or text and I can try to get you on one!


That was quite a day or morning,you guys must of really been pumped up after that session,thanks for the report and pics!

Cya Tuna Vic

Thanks TUNAVIC! Yeah, the high lasted all day and into the next!


Hey Ken... can you see me in your rear view mirror? I'm that tiny speck way back there... :LOL:
Oh boy, you're gonna be really tough to catch, especially with my once a month surf outings, lol
You've come a long way my friend and I'm proud to see you improve as an individual and an angler.
The way you handle family life, unexpected adversities and still find time to improve your fishing game is commendable. :Cool:
I shoulda fished with you guys on Sunday... my original plan to fish was a wash out... damn it! :mad:
Congrats to all who caught legals on Sunday, well done! :Applause:

Commander, I just went out and bought a larger rear-view mirror (you know the kind that taxi cabs use?) and still can't see you! :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: Just Kidding. If history teaches us anything, it is that a 12-0 or 14-3 lead means nothing when dealing with you!


Well this seems like an echo but great job again!! :Cool: I would have been out there earlier with you guys but I had a bit too much to drink the night before but I did manage to show up right when I saw you catch that legal. I was looking and thought to myself, "that has to be Ken with that big hali", and sure enough it was. I enjoyed watching the show you guys put on and even inspired me to jump into my car and throw my gear on even though I wasn't planning to :LOL:.

Congrats again my friend and to your buddy. Keep it up.

-Peter

Peter, aren't you glad that you joined in the fun afterall? Shame on you for showing up in regular clothes that day! :LOL: Hope you didn't sink in quicksand and congrats on number 3!


Way to go guys! When Peter told me that you guys were already killing it I knew it was going to be a good day. Sorry I just missed you out there. You are definitely on fire Ken!

-Raney

Welcome to the Hood Brother Raney! Wow! I think that Dan is right, you stand alone in the corbina induction. That is a rare feat that you masterfully accomplished by targeting that trough! Great job Sunday!

[Which Way Out]

Time to change your name. No more Skunked for life for you!

You also have a big Target on you now, you know that, Right? 14 legals already, is this an Aprils fools joke? :Smile:

Then Don goes and ups his game and breaks the tie he and I had going. My bet is this time next month, no later than May 5th, I slam a 40" on the beach up next to a Cinco de Mayo Corona .:Rolls Eyes: yea right. lol I'll just try not to make it a Shovel nose........:ROFL:

Great day on the beach boys.

WWO

[skunked4life]

Time to change your name. No more Skunked for life for you!

You also have a big Target on you now, you know that, Right? 14 legals already, is this an Aprils fools joke? :Smile:

Then Don goes and ups his game and breaks the tie he and I had going. My bet is this time next month, no later than May 5th, I slam a 40" on the beach up next to a Cinco de Mayo Corona .:Rolls Eyes: yea right. lol I'll just try not to make it a Shovel nose........:ROFL:

Great day on the beach boys.

WWO

Bill, the screen name stays. It is a constant reminder that things could be worse and that I need to be thankful for what I have. As to the target? Who's aiming? Call me on the 4th of May and I will bring the chips and salsa to go with that 40"!

Ken

[Which Way Out]

Bill, the screen name stays. It is a constant reminder that things could be worse and that I need to be thankful for what I have. As to the target? Who's aiming? Call me on the 4th of May and I will bring the chips and salsa to go with that 40"!

Ken

You got it Ken, you got it. 40 oz..:Food:

[keepemlo]

Nice job,I'm still waitn to wade back in those old familiar waves,,,two more weeks ,,I'm am there!!!!thank god you guys are holding it down,,lotsobites

[anchor3n1]

Hi Ken

I read this report a couple days ago but I haven't been able to type up a reply tip now. This is wat I want to say:

YOU ARE AMAZING:EyePop:

As I think about the your session reports over the last many months you've developed into a most proficient fisherman! You have put in the time (sometimes a skunk), gained skills with your bait casting reel/rig, done the reconn, honed your skills. Your the good "farmer" who is now enjoying the harvest - "That's 14 legals for the year! Woohoo!", says Ken:Shocked::Envious:

Thank you for the excellent (as I now have come to expect from you) report and congrats to you, Don and the others!!!

All the best,

Nick

[Jaysuuun]

This reply is mostly for Alex on landing his first legal since I'm tired of Ken putting up another one of his legal reports. LOL jk. Alex, congrats on your first legal butt. I'm sure you're hooked now and will never hit the beach again without master Ken. Don congrats on the big fish of the day. Ken, nice legals..I guess..whatever hahah

[bachiboy]

This reply is mostly for Alex on landing his first legal since I'm tired of Ken putting up another one of his legal reports. LOL jk. Alex, congrats on your first legal butt. I'm sure you're hooked now and will never hit the beach again without master Ken. Don congrats on the big fish of the day. Ken, nice legals..I guess..whatever hahah

Sick Tess on him and she'll give him a big piece of humble pie!:ROFL:

[jerryG]

Hey Ken... can you see me in your rear view mirror? I'm that tiny speck way back there... :LOL:
Oh boy, you're gonna be really tough to catch, especially with my once a month surf outings, lol
You've come a long way my friend and I'm proud to see you improve as an individual and an angler.
The way you handle family life, unexpected adversities and still find time to improve your fishing game is commendable. :Cool:
I shoulda fished with you guys on Sunday... my original plan to fish was a wash out... damn it! :mad:
Congrats to all who caught legals on Sunday, well done! :Applause:


Out standing results excellent job guys.. You put the wood to them again.. The relentless attack continues.. Keep the reports coming guys.. At this point I would be good with having time to fish the surf once a month.. Long gone are the days when I fished the surf every week.. Hope to get back to that point someday..

JerryG

[skunked4life]

Nice job,I'm still waitn to wade back in those old familiar waves,,,two more weeks ,,I'm am there!!!!thank god you guys are holding it down,,lotsobites

Thanks for the reply! You know what they say, strike while it's hot!


Hi Ken

I read this report a couple days ago but I haven't been able to type up a reply tip now. This is wat I want to say:

YOU ARE AMAZING:EyePop:

As I think about the your session reports over the last many months you've developed into a most proficient fisherman! You have put in the time (sometimes a skunk), gained skills with your bait casting reel/rig, done the reconn, honed your skills. Your the good "farmer" who is now enjoying the harvest - "That's 14 legals for the year! Woohoo!", says Ken:Shocked::Envious:

Thank you for the excellent (as I now have come to expect from you) report and congrats to you, Don and the others!!!

All the best,

Nick

Nick, I am a firm believer that all good gifts come from above. Thanks for your awesome reply and go hunt down some flatties! Although, I have to say, I wouldn't mind some piggy perch action while I look for #15!


This reply is mostly for Alex on landing his first legal since I'm tired of Ken putting up another one of his legal reports. LOL jk. Alex, congrats on your first legal butt. I'm sure you're hooked now and will never hit the beach again without master Ken. Don congrats on the big fish of the day. Ken, nice legals..I guess..whatever hahah

You know what? Just get me a pfd (not a pink one) so we can hunt down some 40 inchers!!!


Sick Tess on him and she'll give him a big piece of humble pie!:ROFL:

That's just not right...lol


Out standing results excellent job guys.. You put the wood to them again.. The relentless attack continues.. Keep the reports coming guys.. At this point I would be good with having time to fish the surf once a month.. Long gone are the days when I fished the surf every week.. Hope to get back to that point someday..

JerryG

Thanks Jerry! You know only the commander can go out once a month and land a legal butt each time. Me, it takes multiple trips.