What Kind of Shotgun to Buy?

[Jbfish]

I'm looking for a shotgun for both home security and maybe a little hunting. I've never bought a gun and this will be my first purchase. I've looked at Turners and BPS but haven't been to serious about making a purchase. I just wanted some advice from anybody who knows about shotguns. Recommendations on type of shotgun to buy, different models, preferred manufacturer, etc. If you all could give me some input that would be great. Thanks in Advance *JBfish*
**** Looking to spend up to $500 ****

[DockRat]

I can't recommend one but the gun guys will want to know your budget.
Had a Remington 870 before and is was a good gun. Took it to Chile.
I'll I have now is a Springfield Model 10 trench model that has a 20" barrel. Pre WW2 and paid $100 for it back in the 90's.
DR

[cutbait]

Home defense and hunting are two different things.

a hunting shotgun can be used for home defense but not look tactical.

a home defense shotgun looks tactical but can't be used for hunting at all. {too short of a barrel}

Buy a Remington 870 Express. 350 bucks, sometimes on sale as low as 299.


Steer clear of Mossberg. Some guys love em, NOT ME! I just sold one that was slam firing because the hammer fell when feeding a new round in.


What are you planning on hunting will determine barrel length and choke

[Lady Quagga]

Mossberg 930. I expect this thread to get over-testosteroned quickly, and it's pointless getting into a debate over "which shotgun is best". (For every person you come across praising a particular make or model, you'll find another condemning it.) Just punch it up on Google (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Mossberg+930) and do the research for yourself.

It's a couple hundred or so over your budget, but if you can save $500, you can certainly save a little more.

[cutbait]

If he's going to save a couple hundy more than the 500 the last thing he should be buying is a POS Mossberg.

If he's going over budget get a Baretta

[old pudd fisher]

I like my good old Mossderg 500 ATP 12 ga. What dose ATP mean?

[DEVOREFLYER]

For home defense you want a short barrel 20". For hunting depending on upland or waterfowl a 26 or 28" barrel. A gun can be bought with extra barrels. You did not mention your experience with firearms. Shot guns come in many types of actions, double barrel in side by side or over and under barrels, pump action or semi-auto. Shot guns also come in many gauges and shells come in many loads. A 12ga magnum 00buck load in a short barrel if you have not shot one before may make you wonder "What the hell have I done". a 28ga in a light trap load is a pleasure and shooting several hundred rounds in a day would be no big deal. At one time or another I have owned and/or shot all of the above. I presently have two 12 ga pump action shotguns an Ithica mod 37 featherlite and a 12 ga Winchester mod 25. I used the Ithica for upland birds and rabbits as it is light to carry. The Winchester a heaver gun for waterfowl. Several years ago due to an arthritic shoulder I purchased a Weatherby SA-08 12 ga semi-auto. The Weatherby is my go to gun and is absolutely flawless in operation in all conditions and loads. Send me a PM if you wish to discuss further your needs.

[HawgZWylde]

Well I agree with Dev, you didn't state your experience with firearms and stated that you have never owned one so I'll assume you haven't and go from there.

20 or 28 gauge Remington 1100. It's light, it won't take your shoulder off if you don't know how to hold it when you first fire it, and it's semi automatic. I've had mine for 35 years and it has never failed me. With that being said, if you have no experience with firearms PLEASE have an experienced instructor or friend show you how to safely use it AND clean it before you head out to the dez to slay Mr. Rabbit...

[cutbait]

Ithacas, 1100's... you guys... under 500!

[DockRat]

Shotguns in CA:

A. Must have a 18" or longer barrel
B. Must be at least 26" in overall length
C. Can have a folding/collapsible stock OR a pistol grip, but not both
D. CANNOT have: a detachable magazine, a revolving cylinder, or be a Franchi SPAS 12, LAW 12, Striker 12, or Streetsweeper

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[HawgZWylde]

Ithacas, 1100's... you guys... under 500!

Lol, well, Quagga DID say he should save more money...

[HawgZWylde]

Shotguns in CA:

A. Must have a 18" or longer barrel
B. Must be at least 26" in overall length
C. Can have a folding/collapsible stock OR a pistol grip, but not both
D. CANNOT have: a detachable magazine, a revolving cylinder, or be a Franchi SPAS 12, LAW 12, Striker 12, or Streetsweeper

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Ya right, tell that to Johnny gang banger or any Hessian, Hells Angel, or Mongol. I'll stick with the chick in the vid...

[DEVOREFLYER]

Ithacas, 1100's... you guys... under 500!

Hey lighten up I didn't recommend a L C Smith Pigeon Grade I had for three days. First and only time I saw my wife go "Thermonuclear" over one of my boy toy purchases. Took it back and bought a Browning Citori and made peace with the "War Department". lol

[HawgZWylde]

Well DR, forget the chick, he should just go buy this and be done with it already...:Shocked:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g9uLzraras

[HawgZWylde]

Hey lighten up I didn't recommend a L C Smith Pigeon Grade I had for three days. First and only time I saw my wife go "Thermonuclear" over one of my boy toy purchases. Took it back and bought a Browning Citori and made peace with the "War Department". lol

Lol, oh Dev you are soooo $%&&# whipped...

[DEVOREFLYER]

Lol, oh Dev you are soooo $%&&# whipped...

A man's gotta know his limits and I found out her's. lol

[HawgZWylde]

A man's gotta know his limits and I found out her's. lol

Lol, been there done that. I bought a Gibson Les Paul years ago and ended up involuntarily getting my first flat top hair style courtesy of my lovely wielding a cast iron frying pan. Do you remember what Herman Munster's head looked like? Staples and all...:EyePop:

[DEVOREFLYER]

I have never bought a gun and sold it for less than I paid for it. The right firearm and taken care of will return good money as an investment. I have a number of firearms that have become safe queens due to the incredible increase in their value several are 30 to 50 times what I paid for them. And some musical instruments have similar gains in value.

[HawgZWylde]

I have never bought a gun and sold it for less than I paid for it. The right firearm and taken care of will return good money as an investment. I have a number of firearms that have become safe queens due to the incredible increase in their value several are 30 to 50 times what I paid for them. And some musical instruments have similar gains in value.

Absolutely. Both are good investments...

[Lady Quagga]

If he's going to save a couple hundy more than the 500 the last thing he should be buying is a POS Mossberg.

If he's going over budget get a Baretta

Baretta? Never heard of that brand.

However, if I was to compare a Beretta model to the Mossberg 930, it would be the 1201FP. I've owned the latter and fired the former, and both are fine shotguns. Unfortunately, the 1201FP is no longer produced.

I do enjoy Benelli's Super 90's, but they tend to be beyond the reasonable price range of the average buyer.

[PokerFish]

For home defense you want a short barrel 20".

I think a shotgun for home defense should be as short as possible which would be 18". A longer barrel is heavier, harder to handle, and much more cumbersome to move around with inside your home.

[PokerFish]

I got the Mossberg 500 combo from GOG (galleryofguns.com). It comes with a 18" barrel for home defense and a 28" Accu-choke barrel (even includes chokes). It's a super reliable pump and fits what you want to do perfectly. Under $500 as well.

[cutbait]

Baretta? Never heard of that brand.

However, if I was to compare a Beretta model to the Mossberg 930, it would be the 1201FP. I've owned the latter and fired the former, and both are fine shotguns. Unfortunately, the 1201FP is no longer produced.

I do enjoy Benelli's Super 90's, but they tend to be beyond the reasonable price range of the average buyer.

Ah yes! Nothing says "look at me" than the spelling Nazi!


Congrats! You've just proved Mossberg trumps! You've won

[blackberg]

a Saiga-12 is out of your budget,
but something like a Mossberg with an 18" barrel and longer one with a choke is the way to go.
Big 5 usually has specials on the combos.

most major manufacturer pump shotguns have a wide variety of barrels you can buy

-bb

[PokerFish]

a Saiga-12 is out of your budget,
but something like a Mossberg with an 18" barrel and longer one with a choke is the way to go.
Big 5 usually has specials on the combos.

most major manufacturer pump shotguns have a wide variety of barrels you can buy

-bb

I believe the black Mossberg 500 combo from Big 5 does not have a choked barrel. You really want the choked barrel since it will make your gun much more versatile for hunting.

[PokerFish]

I believe the black Mossberg 500 combo from Big 5 does not have a choked barrel. You really want the choked barrel since it will make your gun much more versatile for hunting.

The Camo version, however, I think does come with a choked barrel. Maybe someone can confirm.

[DEVOREFLYER]

Something to think about if you are new to firearms and want a home defense weapon. I assume you mean to defend while someone has entered your home and not outside your home. A shotgun legal minimum barrel length is 18" and nearly all manufacturers make no barrel less than 18 1/2" to be legally safe. Even with an 18 1/2" barrel the overall length of the weapon is going to be around 38 to 40" and interior door ways are 30" and hallways around 36" wide and it is difficult to quickly maneuver the weapon. Any weapon fired in the interior of a room is going to make you and the intruder temporally blind and deaf from the muzzle flash and blast. If you have not hit the intruder with the first shot or he does not flee you have a problem Houston.

My personal choice for interior home defense is a large caliber revolver. The reason for this is if it's loaded it's ready to rock and roll. No magazine to worry about, is there a round in the chamber, is the safety on or off, just squeeze the trigger. If you are awakened in the middle of the night and in the dark and seconds count you need to have a weapon that is ready for war. Any weapon is only as good as the experience behind the trigger and time at the range is a must, lots of time at the range to develop skills cannot be emphasized enough.

In my home you better bring your "A" game if your going to break in or attempt a home invasion. Getting past Rommel my GSD won't be easy. Here is a pic of Rommel guarding the bedroom door when we had a house guest several months ago. lol

http://i.imgur.com/U8czB1b.jpg

[cutbait]

Your right Devo,


OP wants a fuel economical SUV. His best bet is two guns. One could never have too many guns!. Besides if he goes the Mossberg route as majority is recommending he will need at least two guns for when the Mossy breaks down

[Lady Quagga]

Ah yes! Nothing says "look at me" than the spelling Nazi!


Congrats! You've just proved Mossberg trumps! You've won

I don't recall making an argument for Mossberg over any other brand. Can you point that out to me?

However, if you are going to make a comparative or critical analysis of firearms, it would help if you first spelled their names correctly. Especially if you are addressing someone who has owned both "Barettas" and "Mausbhergz". Oh, and "Rehmeentunz" as well.

[DEVOREFLYER]

Your right about Mossberg. I bought a 17hmr Mossberg mod 817 a couple of years ago when the CZ I wanted was on a long wait list and I could not wait to have a 17hmr (Patience Grasshopper). The Mossberg 17hmr is a tack driver but the bolt is as smooth as 60 grit sandpaper and the trigger sucks and it is on my list to sell and trade up. It is probably going to be the only gun I will lose money on when I sell it.

[cutbait]

I don't recall making an argument for Mossberg over any other brand. Can you point that out to me?

However, if you are going to make a comparative or critical analysis of firearms, it would help if you first spelled their names correctly. Especially if you are addressing someone who has owned both "Barettas" and "Mausbhergz". Oh, and "Rehmeentunz" as well.

please? By replacing an "a" for "e" in Baretta doesn't diminish my argument.

If spelling is something you can't get past, then please ignore

[Lady Quagga]

please? By replacing an "a" for "e" in Baretta doesn't diminish my argument.

If spelling is something you can't get past, then please ignore

Once again - if you are going to make a comparative or critical analysis of firearms, it would help if you first spelled their names correctly. Especially in the realm of firearms, where a single letter or number can radically change the configuration of a firearm.

[DarkShadow]

Hey Kwagaa,

What do you think about Glawk 19s for home protection?

[Lady Quagga]

Hey Kwagaa,

What do you think about Glawk 19s for home protection?

I prefer SigSours.

Hey kutbate - what do you prefer in a pistuhl?

[cutbait]

I prefer SigSours.

Hey kutbate - what do you prefer in a pistuhl?

In your mouth

[DockRat]

Why not just get the Remington 870 for $300 CB then keep a 20" barrel on it at home. Put on his hunting barrel on when he goes hunting.
Good Gun, 2 Barrels, Case, Several boxes of shells, homie protection shells, hunting shells, cheap practice shells, gun cleaning kit.
ALL FOR UNDER $500.

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If spelling is something you igor

She loves that s h i t CB. Picking fights. Then correcting people. Then the challenge, denial, big words, acting intellectual, PHD wannabe.
Very entertaining, WE LOVE LADY QUAGGA.

Not the kind of love one would have with your dog, more like the love you have for your favorite screwdriver. You open your tool drawer and see that screwdriver, you've had it for years. When you see it there is bit of arousal, you pick it up, hold it. You want to take it out but you would not want people to see your attachment to it, what if you lost it ? It would be sad. Then you reach for a basic generic craftsman for job. You put her back, forget about her until the next you see her.

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[DockRat]

Hey Kwagaa,

What do you think about Glawk 19s for home protection?
HAHAHAHA So funny...

[Lady Quagga]

(Pabst-addled logic)

Slur on, DR......slur on.

[Lady Quagga]

In your mouth

Now now, katbat. Ne need to get all pizzee......

[one long cast]

I really like shotguns so I bought a handmade one from Connecticut Shotgun Mfg. Co. for $9,000.00. Won 3 silver Medals and a gold with it. I hunt with Brownings and Remingtons. For home protection I use a Berretta with extended mag. Also I send the little woman to bed mad every night so beware who comes inside the housed after dark.

[DockRat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFscmMFKjXQ

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[etucker1959]

I really like shotguns so I bought a handmade one from Connecticut Shotgun Mfg. Co. for $9,000.00. Won 3 silver Medals and a gold with it. I hunt with Brownings and Remingtons. For home protection I use a Berretta with extended mag. Also I send the little woman to bed mad every night so beware who comes inside the housed after dark.

Your last sentence is very interesting????

[DarkShadow]

Quagga,

Why do you even own anything to protect your den?

You'd think your face would scare off any would be robber.

AMIRITE GUYS?!?

[Lady Quagga]

Quagga,

Why do you even own anything to protect your den?

You'd think your face would scare off any would be robber.

AMIRITE GUYS?!?

Who said anything about protection? Or scaring them off?

If they came for goods, they must provide services. Even ugly chicks need love....

[DarkShadow]

Who said anything about protection? Or scaring them off?

If they came for goods, they must provide services. Even ugly chicks need love....

http://www.rickey.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/i-just-threw-up-in-my-mouth-a-little-bit.gif

[etucker1959]

Quagga,

Why do you even own anything to protect your den?

You'd think your face would scare off any would be robber.

AMIRITE GUYS?!?

Let's be honest!!!!!!!!!!

[fishinone]

I've bee Looking at the Weatherby SA-08's Only slightly over budget.

[DEVOREFLYER]

Ron shop around as I got mine (Synthetic stock) two years ago for under $400 ($399) from Bi-Mart in Oregon. BassPro had it on sale for near that before Dove season. Great gun lightweight easy to put on target. All of my last four guns have been synthetic stocked and two with SS barrels. I am tired of the fine wood and high polished bluing upkeep and worrying about scratches and scuffs. Got rid of most of my safe queens and replaced them with work horses, did keep some for sentimental reasons.

Here is one that I custom built over 20 years ago. Custom Mauser actioned, bull barreled 26-06 with a Zebra and Rosewood thumbhole stock. 4200fps hand loaded bullet took down my first 400+yard Antelope in Wyoming several months after building it.

http://i.imgur.com/S3GhpOe.jpg

[flybynight]

My Mossberg 500 does me just fine. Holds 3 shots for hunting. Take the plug out and it will hold 6 shots. Good to have around the house for protection also.

[DEVOREFLYER]

Here is my home protection if ya get past the dawg!!!!!

http://i.imgur.com/EvaL2MG.jpg

[City Dad]

Firearms are okay, I guess, but nothing is more fun than putting a broadhead through an intruder's torso. They don't keel over like they show in the movies - it actually startles the schnit out of them and they kinda jump, like "what the hell was that?!?!?" Priceless. Only problem is they tend not to take off running like a deer, so you're probably gonna have to replace the carpet near a window or door.

[Lady Quagga]

Firearms are okay, I guess, but nothing is more fun than putting a broadhead through an intruder's torso. They don't keel over like they show in the movies - it actually startles the schnit out of them and they kinda jump, like "what the hell was that?!?!?" Priceless. Only problem is they tend not to take off running like a deer, so you're probably gonna have to replace the carpet near a window or door.

Gee, thanks Katniss!

[lives2fish]

Here is your home defense shotgun.
http://www.basspro.com/Taurus-Judge-410-Gauge/-45LC-Revolver/product/10218471/

Here is your hunting shotgun. Can be use to hunt anything from birds to buffalo.
http://www.mossberg.com/product/shotguns-pump-action-500-combo/52272

[DarkShadow]

Gee, thanks Katniss!

You actually read that garbage? I'm still pissed off at the person who made me read that book, not knowing it was disguised as a teenager novel. That's was like telling someone they were reading Dracula yet you slipped them a copy of Twilight instead. That was like when someone told me Jerry Maguire was a 'football' movie.

Then again, you're of the XX variety.

Why do you know so much about guns? What's your arsenal consist of?

[City Dad]

Gee, thanks Katniss!

You're welcome... but by far the funniest thing I ever witnessed was my step-father dry-firing his bow. It snapped in two right at the stabilizer, the stabilizer flew out like an arrow and the bottom half swung around and hit him in the groin. We didn't fully understand what had happened until he crumpled to the ground. Good times for sure.

[City Dad]

What's your arsenal consist of?


You mean "Of what does your arsenal consist?" or are Californians above the rule of ending a sentence with a preposition???

[DarkShadow]

You mean "Of what does your arsenal consist?" or are Californians above the rule of ending a sentence with a preposition???

My bad.

It should have read, "What's your arsenal consist of, aßshole?"

[Lady Quagga]

You actually read that garbage? I'm still pissed off at the person who made me read that book, not knowing it was disguised as a teenager novel. That's was like telling someone they were reading Dracula yet you slipped them a copy of Twilight instead. That was like when someone told me Jerry Maguire was a 'football' movie.

Then again, you're of the XX variety.

Wait - you mean Top Gun wasn't a volleyball movie?


Why do you know so much about guns? What's your arsenal consist of?

Now now, it's considered bad form to ask a Lady what guns she's bedded down with. Or something.

[Which Way Out]

For when you know their coming.....Just reach out and touch em.

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[Stormcrow]

Guys, I know nothing about guns in any capacity whatsoever...However, guns do interest me so I found the thread very interesting. That is, until the LQ bullsh** which degrades any thread into a bad "Compton High School" Halftime Show.

With that said, could someone point me in the direction of a good "all encompassing" information resource for shotguns? I'd like to learn more about them.

[HawgZWylde]

Guys, I know nothing about guns in any capacity whatsoever...However, guns do interest me so I found the thread very interesting. That is, until the LQ bullsh** which degrades any thread into a bad "Compton High School" Halftime Show.

Truth that Storm. There's a certain few here who jack threads on a regular basis. Grown adults stuck on kid stupid...


With that said, could someone point me in the direction of a good "all encompassing" information resource for shotguns? I'd like to learn more about them.

I came across this the other day. Hope it helps;

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob120.html

[cutbait]

For when you know their coming.....Just reach out and touch em.

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WWO.....

Nice!

I've been doing some reaching out and touching.

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[DEVOREFLYER]

Don't ya love it when they take a "Dirt Nap".:Envious:

[City Dad]

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u290/kluna2/20140107_171334_zpsa10a3b62.jpg

Dude, you gotta, gotta join a PETA affiliated message board, wait an appropriate amount of time to dispel suspicion and then post this in a thread titled "Saving the California Roadrunner." (Then you gotta be quick enough on the draw and capture the responses you get before you're banned!) That'd be hilarious.

[cutbait]

Dude, you gotta, gotta join a PETA affiliated message board, wait an appropriate amount of time to dispel suspicion and then post this in a thread titled "Saving the California Roadrunner." (Then you gotta be quick enough on the draw and capture the responses you get before you're banned!) That'd be hilarious.

Banned? I'd bet they would trace my IP address (if possible) and trash everything I own

[cutbait]

Don't ya love it when they take a "Dirt Nap".:Envious:

Only non Mossberg dirt naps

[DEVOREFLYER]

Here is one from this morning, does Mossberg make traps. lol

http://i.imgur.com/Yzm6xov.jpg

[Lady Quagga]

Truth that Storm. There's a certain few here who jack threads on a regular basis. Grown adults stuck on kid stupid...



I came across this the other day. Hope it helps;

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob120.html

Oh s.t.f.u. you p.l.b.

[riverbud55]

[QUOTE=HawgZWylde;713331]Truth that Storm. There's a certain few here who jack threads on a regular basis. Grown adults stuck on kid stupid...


Couldn't agree more,,, why I quit coming to this board,,, place needs some mod's that will clean house


Back to the OP ?? JMO you can't go wrong on a 870 express, own 3 870's 2 wingmasters and a express, all well used and proven game takers,,,, couldn't give me a Mossberg,, 1st shotgun I bought and then gave back/returned was a mossberg 500,,, first time I took it out after 100 plus rounds the firing pin broke, took it back to be fixed and got it back a few week later, then took it back to shoot some clay pigeons shooting 3'' mags getting ready for some geese hunting,, frign lug to the barrel fell off depositing the barrel on the ground,, got it at Kmart back when they sold guns and took it back again this time exchanging it for a 30'' full choke 870 wingmaster,, picked up a express a few years later when they 1st came out 20+ years ago have shot 10s of thousands of rounds threw that gun and never on problem with it,,, I have many shot guns these days, but that old 870 express goes on every trip,,, Just a word of advice with the new laws coming down on lead shot,, if you get a used gun make sure it will fire steel shot,, most anything from about the mid 90's on and you will be fine,,, the barrel on that 30''full choke is almost worthless these days for hunting

[cutbait]

[QUOTE=HawgZWylde;713331]Truth that Storm. There's a certain few here who jack threads on a regular basis. Grown adults stuck on kid stupid...


Couldn't agree more,,, why I quit coming to this board,,, place needs some mod's that will clean house


Back to the OP ?? JMO you can't go wrong on a 870 express, own 3 870's 2 wingmasters and a express, all well used and proven game takers,,,, couldn't give me a Mossberg,, 1st shotgun I bought and then gave back/returned was a mossberg 500,,, first time I took it out after 100 plus rounds the firing pin broke, took it back to be fixed and got it back a few week later, then took it back to shoot some clay pigeons shooting 3'' mags getting ready for some geese hunting,, frign lug to the barrel fell off depositing the barrel on the ground,, got it at Kmart back when they sold guns and took it back again this time exchanging it for a 30'' full choke 870 wingmaster,, picked up a express a few years later when they 1st came out 20+ years ago have shot 10s of thousands of rounds threw that gun and never on problem with it,,, I have many shot guns these days, but that old 870 express goes on every trip,,, Just a word of advice with the new laws coming down on lead shot,, if you get a used gun make sure it will fire steel shot,, most anything from about the mid 90's on and you will be fine,,, the barrel on that 30''full choke is almost worthless these days for hunting

100% agree. I have 2 wing masters and I argue best pump shotgun ever made. I wonder how many rounds these Mossberg supporters are actually putting through their gun in a year. I suspect most are a box or two a year types

[blackberg]

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Guys, I know nothing about guns in any capacity whatsoever...However, guns do interest me so I found the thread very interesting. That is, until the LQ bullsh** which degrades any thread into a bad "Compton High School" Halftime Show.

With that said, could someone point me in the direction of a good "all encompassing" information resource for shotguns? I'd like to learn more about them.

[HBAR]

I just saw this thread today, from my experience and having worked (at then) Sportmart which is now sports authority, we used to sell guns back then BELIEVE IT OR NOT! the one shotgun we sold the most of was the Mossberg combo that came with a 18" barrel and a 26 or 28" barrel. We never got back any negative feed back and if I remember correctly back then it cost around $250 (I could be wrong). I think if you were to check out big 5 they might have that combo around still.

[old pudd fisher]

Don't shoot it much, sometimes when I go to the desert with my 4x4. So far my Mossberg 500 has been fine with me with a 18in barrel, just use it for home security. Good cheap shot gun like the op wants to buy.

[Stinkbait]

I have never seen the Mossberg 500 rumors and I wouldn't buy one, however they have been used by the marines and cops for years. They may be supped up, IDK.

My advice to the OP is to visit a few pawn shops and buy a good used Rem 870 (like everyone else said). See if you like it. Every part in the gun can be replaced for cheap. Cops like them too.

My first gun purchase was a used Browning BPS (Browning pump shotgun) from a pawn shop over 20 years ago. It has never failed me. It is more robust than the 870 as both sides are solid, no side ejection like the 870. Loading and ejection is from the bottom.

Can't go wrong with either a 870 or BPS. Buy used, it is no issue.

Stormcrow, checkout The Shotgun News for a plethora of shotty and general gun info. Also checkout Jesses hunting and fishing forums. It has everything under the sun outdoors and a shotty and upland hunting specific forum. It was one of the first ginormous outdoors forums from the near beginning of the interwebs discussion type sites.

[DEVOREFLYER]

As I had said before my choice in a pump action is my Ithaca model 37. I was first introduced to it as a SBSO Reserve in the late 1960's. Here is a short history of the Ithica 37.

The Ithaca 37 is based on a 1915 design by the famous firearms designers John Browning and John Pedersen, initially marketed as the Remington Model 17. The Model 17 was a 20-gauge of trim proportions, which Browning and Pedersen later redesigned and refined into the popular side-ejecting Remington Model 31. That gun would eventually be replaced in production by the less expensive Remington 870 which is still produced to this day.

The largest single user outside the US Military is the Los Angeles Police Department. Along with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, numerous other users include military, police, security agencies, and prisons. The Ithaca 37 was a popular choice among civilians for both sport and personal protection. With higher prices for new Ithacas and decreasing availability compared to the Mossberg 500 and Remington 870, use of the Ithaca 37 continues to decline. Interestingly, Ithaca's loss of market share was hastened by competition from a copy of the shotgun. Chinese copies of the Ithaca 37 have been imported recently. Additionally, the supply of used civilian and departmental shotguns has been a steady competitor.

But it all comes down in the end to what you can afford and what do you personally like. Chevy or Ford, Yugo or BMW it's your choice in the end.

[Which Way Out]

WWO.....

Nice!

I've been doing some reaching out and touching.

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Mike I can't tell what you were using on the Coyotes. 270? or very well placed 17 HMR.

Either way good for you on saving the next generation of Fawns...
WWO

[fishfinder]

just remember for hunting your gun can only hold 3 shells. I have a 1184 sportsmans model mfg. in November1951. I think the new ones like the 870 have softer steel. As for home protection, the barrel length doesn't matter if you have a pump, cause as soon as you pump it, your burblers are jumping out the window. try this site here for guns. http://www.gunauction.com/shop/shotguns-for-sale

[DockRat]

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[HereFishy]

If you want something cheap that is going to go bang every time then you really cant go wrong with a remington 870. The replacement barrels are cheep as well. If you do your homework you can find a brand new 870 (for upland game birds and water fowl), two different barrels like a rifled barrel (for saboted slugs for deer and hogs), and a shorter home security barrel all for close to $600. I always say to everyone to just make sure you do your homework on gun laws and hunting regs before you start spending any money.