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Is this done do you use a sinking line tandem fly set up any help would be great. Just wanna try some new ways to FEESH. Since I have all the gear from my uncle who past away it would be like me getting to FEESH with him again
Big Willy
12-05-2013, 07:49 AM
Sucks your uncle passed, I think he would enjoy you learning on his gear.…..
You talking stream or lake? What weight is your rod? Can you afford a day with a guide? These are honest questions. This would cut out allot of guess work. I know one for the local rivers that is a teacher of the 5th grade and also a fly fishing instructor. He is patient to say the least. PM me if you want his info.
I would also recommend reading these book over and over again. Practice casting allot. Fly fishing can be addictive in the right setting. Take your time and remember to enjoy your surroundings! Thats what it is all about.
http://www.amazon.com/Lake-Fly-Fishing-Manifesto-Mike-Croft/dp/1571884106
http://www.amazon.com/Curtis-Creek-Manifesto-Illustrated-Paraphernalia/dp/0936608064
Hope this helps.
Sucks your uncle passed, I think he would enjoy you learning on his gear.…..
You talking stream or lake? What weight is your rod? Can you afford a day with a guide? These are honest questions. This would cut out allot of guess work. I know one for the local rivers that is a teacher of the 5th grade and also a fly fishing instructor. He is patient to say the least. PM me if you want his info.
I would also recommend reading these book over and over again. Practice casting allot. Fly fishing can be addictive in the right setting. Take your time and remember to enjoy your surroundings! Thats what it is all about.
http://www.amazon.com/Lake-Fly-Fishing-Manifesto-Mike-Croft/dp/1571884106
http://www.amazon.com/Curtis-Creek-Manifesto-Illustrated-Paraphernalia/dp/0936608064
Hope this helps.
Tttt
I am some what experienced at fly fishing as my uncle taught me when I was a kid but that's not what I was really wondering about I feesh sarl and irvine from a boat as I like to troll a lot but I am also liking to drift as well. So my question is would a tandem rig be best for this and are these stocker trout acceptable to taking flys.
Thanks for the info and reply though I appreciate it a lot
DEVOREFLYER
12-05-2013, 10:20 AM
Lolo you can use a tandem rig with a nymph and a San Juan Worm under an indicator. Establish what depth you want the lower fly (nymph) to be at and set your indicator at that depth on your tippet/leader. Any wave action or wind will make the fly twitch/move as you are drifting. A wooly bugger or a streamer would be my choice for a troll. Good luck.
Depends on the stocker trout you are fishing for. The lakes you mentioned I would go with more of a bugger pattern. Midges and caddis type fly's are going to get taken more by fish that have been exposed to that type of forage and also they may be more willing to take those types of patterns in the spring when hatches are more prevalent.
My experience is at the pay to fish lakes you mentioned this time of the year I'd go with a pattern that has more flash. A black or olive sparkle bugger is a pretty good pattern at those lakes, especially Irvine (I haven't done any fly fishing at Santa Ana River Lakes).
But adding a bigger size prince nymph as a dropper always seems to get some takes, this worked real well for me this year at Gregory on the stockers.
Good luck!
Is sinking fly line the WTG here as well as mentioned above setting a depth. Do buggers and nymphs live in deeper water. As well as with the rod and reel I got a crap load of flies as we'll I have the San Juan's and bead head with buggers and streams and muddler minnows. Great info here thanks
DEVOREFLYER
12-05-2013, 10:56 AM
I personally only use sinking line if trolling or tugging a wooly bugger or streamer. Under an indicator regular line. When tugging a streamer or wooly bugger I do not use a tippet only a leader as they are not line shy and it does not affect the action as it would a dry or wet fly.
Gotcha is using a 3# leader to light or heavy
Full sink for me also. In fly fishing vernacular I would go with a 5x tippet for streamer type fishing which is a little over 4lbs. test so yes 3 lbs. test is about right if not a little light.
Ok thanks you all have been very helpful and I appreciate it. Now can't Wait for next week to try all this out at the Vine
DEVOREFLYER
12-05-2013, 07:19 PM
While this is not at a local lake or a stocked Trout you can see how deadly a size 18 chronomid nymph (my favorite) can be when fished under an indicator with a fly rod.
http://i.imgur.com/5wrd4P1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2VKorMr.jpg
hookdfisherman
12-05-2013, 07:34 PM
I feel all Warm and Wooly Bugger, very nice!
I am listening loud and clear. Very nice FEESH
While this is not at a local lake or a stocked Trout you can see how deadly a size 18 chronomid nymph (my favorite) can be when fished under an indicator with a fly rod.
http://i.imgur.com/5wrd4P1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2VKorMr.jpg
Size 18? Hell that's too big sometimes, I know you've done the Crowley deal. But "bobber" fishing just is too boring for me I like tugging a streamer around with a dropper.
At the Double Haul's it was almost always won by the damn indicator guys while streamer tuggers worked their butt's off, same guys every year think that's what killed the tournament we all got tired of seeing the same guys winning $1000 fly rod's and reels every year.
Beautiful fish must have been a helluva battle!
DEVOREFLYER
12-06-2013, 08:31 AM
Size 18? Hell that's too big sometimes, I know you've done the Crowley deal. But "bobber" fishing just is too boring for me I like tugging a streamer around with a dropper.
At the Double Haul's it was almost always won by the damn indicator guys while streamer tuggers worked their butt's off, same guys every year think that's what killed the tournament we all got tired of seeing the same guys winning $1000 fly rod's and reels every year.
Beautiful fish must have been a helluva battle!
It was a battle of a lifetime, aerial acrobatics almost nonstop, down to the backing numerous times and once bare spool was showing. My cousin not 30 minutes later caught the same fish or it's twin brother and lost it when the guide bumped it with the net and it came unbuttoned. The beast was almost 29" long and we had no scale to weigh it and the pic was from a cell phone as I left my camera in my truck. Caught in 7 to 9 foot of water in Hilton Bay 6" to a foot off the bottom under and indicator. I fish Crowley with a nymph 90% of the time the other 10% tugging a Punk Perch along a weed bed. Mid September to season close is my favorite time to fish.
Winter time it's the Upper Owens via a snowmobile or the Lower Owens in a drift boat tugging streamers.
http://i.imgur.com/KOhCJqv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F2nowig.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OMwWDzY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dR6nRro.jpg
It was a battle of a lifetime, aerial acrobatics almost nonstop, down to the backing numerous times and once bare spool was showing. My cousin not 30 minutes later caught the same fish or it's twin brother and lost it when the guide bumped it with the net and it came unbuttoned. The beast was almost 29" long and we had no scale to weigh it and the pic was from a cell phone as I left my camera in my truck. Caught in 7 to 9 foot of water in Hilton Bay 6" to a foot off the bottom under and indicator. I fish Crowley with a nymph 90% of the time the other 10% tugging a Punk Perch along a weed bed. Mid September to season close is my favorite time to fish.
Winter time it's the Upper Owens via a snowmobile or the Lower Owens in a drift boat tugging streamers.
http://i.imgur.com/KOhCJqv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F2nowig.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OMwWDzY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dR6nRro.jpg
Oh you've been donating money to Tom huh? That snow mobile gig sounds like a blast, any trips scheduled?
DEVOREFLYER
12-06-2013, 09:20 AM
My guide the past 6 years is "Fill" Therrien. While "Fill" guides for Tom he also has his own guide service www.troutdude.com
"Fill" is my go to guy, no one does it better, NO ONE!!!! Drift boating the Owens is my favorite. I will schedule a trip after the holidays as the Lower Owens flow is around 80 now and looks like it will be holding at that for some time. The big boys should be holding in the pools with the low flow and nymph and streamer tugging will get um. The snowmobile thing on the Upper is wild but iced guides and my old body and the cold do not get along, "Been there Done that" as they say. But some HUGH fish come out of Crowley into the Upper in the winter and if you can handle the cold it is killer fishing.
I got addicted to Drift boating the Owens when I was introduced to it over 30 years ago by my high school classmate (Blair Hilborn) that owned the Bishop movie theater. Blair had the perfect life for fishing as the theater did not open until the afternoon leaving plenty of time for the morning drift trip. Sadly Blair was killed a number of years ago when he was flying his private plane. I still miss the great times Blair and I had drift fishing together and each trip with "Fill" is a reminder of those good old days.