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TonyLisa
11-07-2012, 07:58 PM
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etucker1959
11-07-2012, 09:49 PM
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p573/TonysTackleTrade/08323C4F-A809-413D-9541-511D45D64FD2-633-000000942CC3A680.jpg

Maybe now we can now put to rest that Calico Bass really should be CPR.

Jackpot Jimmy
11-07-2012, 10:00 PM
The California Department of Fish and Game unanimously voted today to approve these regulations. On the table were slot limits (i.e. 13-17 inches) and a summer closure, but they were rejected. I would imagine this will be implemented come the first of the year.

I'm interested to see what will happen next...

TonyLisa
11-07-2012, 10:44 PM
Oh yeah let's see what happens, I am a catch and release kinda guy anyways so didn't care to much

murrieta angler
11-08-2012, 06:30 AM
Thanks for posting this.
Robert
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TUNAVIC
11-08-2012, 08:31 AM
Wow very intresting,I think it's a good idea,if your inclined to keep fish to eat,5 is more than enough at one time,so much fish is put into the freezer only to be discarded later.I think it's good to protect this local fishery.jmo

Cya Tuna Vic

Viejo
11-08-2012, 11:37 AM
What's sad is that there are those who believe that there is no impact on salt water inshore fishing from recreational fishing. All you have to do is see what each cow boat is hauling in seven days a week to believe that there has to be some impact from all those kept fish. As the old timers will tell you....today's catches are significantly smaller and bags are smaller as well.

I still amazed at the difference in size of the Halibut and Mako tournament winners from when we had a sailboat in Dana Point harbor and now. Years ago they would parade around the harbor with their dead Makos that covered the transom. Today...the "winners" are tiny in comparison.

DockRat
11-09-2012, 06:57 AM
IF YOU WANT MORE CALICO'S THEN RELEASE SHEEPHEAD !!!


Maybe now we can now put to rest that Calico Bass really should be CPR.
Why ? You sound like a FW guy. Lol
Do you ever see lots of wildlife in a burned area after a fire ?
It is all about the kelp. 1/2 3/4 day cattle boat do not go into the kelp.
They fish the edge.

It is a big ocean, there is billions of Calicos out there.
If you want more Calico's then your need more kelp.

Take Palos Verdes for example; The kelp is in fair shape but the kelp beds should
be double in size and much thicker.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/cole5x/kelp.jpg

Too many Sea Urchins. Having been a diver and seeing millions of urchins that eat the root base of each plant. Local urchin divers only harvest larger ones. 3" and up.

You can go out to Terminal Island and see them unload crates everyday.
One diver I spoke with got 300 lbs in 3 hours out by Pt Vicente last year.

SEA URCHIN PREDATORS NEEDED !!!

Who eats Sea Urchins.
Otters; (So Cal used to have them) killed off by man.
Large Lobsters; With the hoop net craze there is less.
More clickers, less 5 lbers and up. (we need a slot limit on lobsters).
Sheephead It makes me sick seeing Sheephead reports.

Example; Read in the paper, San Pedro, 45 sheephead
Yah OK, BUT many are 14" pinkies.

WE NEED A SLOT LIMIT OR BAN ON SHEEPHEAD !
North PV has BILLIONS of Sea Urchins.
Urchin divers DO NOT harvest these smaller N PV urchins.

MLPA ZONES; Can Urchin Divers Harvest there now ?

Healthy kelp. Kelp needs to be studied at the base.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc241/tatterblossom/kelp_forest_15_4.jpg

Killing Sheephead is worse than Killing Calicos.

We need kelp for a healthy ocean.

Sheephead love to eat Sea Urchins...
DR

DockRat
11-09-2012, 07:24 PM
More on Sea Urchins that destroy kelp beds that is the primary home for Kelp Bass (Calicos). There is many factors involved in kelp growth. Water temp, pollution, red tides, ect. If DFG wants more Calicos then they need more habitat. Kelp is critical for a healthy coastal fish population.
DR

"The number of living creatures of all orders whose existence intimately depends on the kelp is wonderful. A great volume might be written, describing the inhabitants of one of these beds of seaweed … I can only compare these great aquatic forests … with terrestrial ones in the intertropical regions. Yet, if in any country a forest was destroyed, I do not believe nearly so many species of animals would perish as would here, from the destruction of kelp."

Charles Darwin


Conservation
In the past, fisheries sought red sea urchins to supply the market with urchin roe. Because the urchins were overfished and preyed upon by sea otters, this commercial fishery is no longer sustainable. Fisheries have turned their attention to purple sea urchins, but because they are small and yield less roe, a large fishery hasn’t developed.

Unlike intertidal sea urchins that live solitary lives in crevices, waiting for a piece of kelp to drift by, subtidal urchins live together in hordes. One of these hordes can devastate a giant kelp forest. The urchins attack the base of the kelp, often eating through the entire stem (stipe) of the plant. Eventually, the area becomes a barren desert, and the purple sea urchins mysteriously disappear.

Sea otters, sunflower stars and California sheephead prey on purple sea urchins. Sea otter predation on purple sea urchins helps protect kelp forests from destruction.

http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/animals/AnimalDetails.aspx?id=781774

Yet kelp beds continue to face numerous threats. Giant kelp canopies off Los Angeles County’s coast have been reduced by 75% during the past 100 years. Too many sea urchins, coastal development, pollution, and El Niño events have contributed to the decline in California’s magnificent kelp forests. The over harvest of key sea urchin predators, namely the southern sea otter, California spiny lobster and California sheephead has destabilized the kelp ecosystem in many areas off Palos Verdes and Malibu. Now sea urchins dominate the rocks rather than kelp and hundreds of species are displaced or diminished. This leaves our coastal waters more prone to invasion by non-native species, unstable kelp beds, species decline, increased coastal erosion and results in the loss of recreational and commercial opportunities.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk5iUoqkqIA&feature=related

2012 video below showing millions of sea urchins that eat Calico Bass habitat at Palos Verdes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk5iUoqkqIA&feature=related

11/7/12

Sportfishing at 22nd Street Marina 89 Anglers 3 Boats 7 Ocean Whitefish, 13 California Sheephead, 5 California Scorpionfish, 1 Sargo, 60 Bocaccio, 191 Rockfish, 220 Vermilion Rockfish, 41 Opaleye, 3 Kelp Bass, 154 Halfmoon, 1 Barred Sand Bass, 3 Lingcod, 2490 Sanddab, 150 Chilipepper N/A

8192 Sheephead taken in 2012 at 22nd st landing !:Shocked:
http://www.sportfishingreport.com/pages/landingdetail.php?landing_id=9

DockRat
11-10-2012, 06:44 AM
Jump to 2:20 for the action.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg60R8yle1M

DockRat
11-10-2012, 06:52 AM
How great it would be for Otters to come back ?
Rare PV Otter footage found.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-PqeKfy6Uo