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TaperSteve
05-27-2012, 09:24 PM
I'm no expert by any means but I'd like to start off with some basics for summertime catfish fishing. First off, a little fact.... there is no such thing as "catfishing". The correct way of saying it is "catfish fishing". OK now that we got that out of the way we'll be going over everything you'll need in your arsenal this summer to target those monster blue and channel catfish @ your favorite local lake!

Reel
There is nothing like the sound of the clicker on a baitcaster screaming away as a catfish takes off with your bait! Catfish are a smarter fish than most think and when they first pick up your bait if they feel the slightest bit of resistance they will drop your bait just as fast as they picked it up. Unless I'm fishing with circle hooks I always leave my bail open so when that cat picks up my bait and takes off with it he/she won't feel any resistance. I like to use a baitcasting reel big enough to hold 20lb test mono for one reason, the clicker. When fishing for cats at night with an open bail, having that clicker engaged you immedietly know when your getting bit. Close the bail, set the hook, and the battle is on! Bass Pro Shop makes the perfect low cost baitcasting reel called the "Megacast". It cost under $30. It comes in a 12lb and 16lb version, your going to want to go with the larger 16lb version. FYI.... this is also the perfect reel for leadcore during trout season.

Rod
Blue and channel catfish can grow up to and over 100 pounds! You never know when that catch of a lifetime might find its way on the end of your line so its best to come prepared to the battle. I like to use a 7 foot, medium to heavy (10-25lb test) rod. Shakespeare makes some Ugly Stiks that are under $40 that are low cost but durable rods for catfish fishing.

Line
Catfish mostly use their powerful scent when feeding thus there is no reason to go light on line. Keep it simple and go with some 12-20lb test mono. I like to use IzorLine because it is cheap. You can buy a large spool of it for under $20. Some people even like to use braided line while fishing for catfish near structure because of its abrasivness but it is harder to and won't cast as far as mono. If you do choose to go with braided line pick your favorite 20lb test braided line.

Hooks
Like I said before if that cat feels the slightest bit of resistance its going to drop your bait so your going to want to flyline your bait. In most cases you don't want to add any weights to your line as it just adds resistance. Flyline means to tie your hook, lure, etc.... directly to your line with no weights, swivels, etc... ahead of it. All you need is a simple bait (J) hook. The most important thing here is to match the size hook to the size bait you are using. I mostly fish with a 2/0 hook when fishing for catfish but when I decide to throw on a larger piece of bait I'll use up to a 5/0 hook or in some cases even larger. Just remember, make sure the cat has your bait then close your bail and set the hook! Circle hooks are an almost entirely differently way of fishing for catfish that is quickly "catching" on but I'll be covering that including the gear you'll need to do it in a future tutorial.

Bait
From cutbaits like mackeral, bonito, and skipjack, to hotdogs and powerbait, catfish will eat just about anything. But make no mistake about it there is nothing like some bloody, oily, fresh cutbait. Mackeral is my favorite to use as they come in the perfect size to cut up and use as bait. I like to chunk my mackeral into 4-6 (2") sections from the tail to the head. DON'T THROW AWAY THE HEAD! The big cats love them! Hook the chunk of mackeral one time making sure to leave the tip of the hook exposed. If using the head hook either the top or bottom lip one time again making sure to leave as much of the tip of the hook exposed as possible. You can also use chicken livers, shrimp, and live nightcrawlers when using this method of fishing. I'll be going over some other bait and rigging options in a future tutorial covering bait. FYI, another reason I love to use fresh cut mackeral is you can go to just about any pier in California and fish for free and catch your own free bait. It is a fun summer activity that I will also be going over in futher details in my future tutorial covering bait.

Stay tuned for future tutorials covering topics like, location, fishing with circle hooks, and baits. The most important thing this summer is to get out there and fish! You won't get your shot at the catch of your lifetime if you don't get out there and fish! I hope to see y'all at one of my favorite local lakes this summer enjoying in the fun of targeting monster blue and channel cats!

TaperSteve

BLUE WAGON
05-27-2012, 10:10 PM
great post TS, looking forward to reading more

smokehound
05-28-2012, 01:38 AM
One bit of clarification here, catfish actually have decent eyesight. Most people have been taught that catfish are bottom-feeding garbage disposals. In reality they are very active predators, and even smash insects on topwater from time to time.

In really clear water, catfish can be really cautious because they can get a good clear look at your bait. I've had some big channels steal bait from me, they can be really good at it.

fishinarteest
05-28-2012, 10:20 PM
One bit of clarification here, catfish actually have decent eyesight. Most people have been taught that catfish are bottom-feeding garbage disposals. In reality they are very active predators, and even smash insects on topwater from time to time.

In really clear water, catfish can be really cautious because they can get a good clear look at your bait. I've had some big channels steal bait from me, they can be really good at it.

I'll second this comment, I learned that one reason why catfish spend so much time on the bottom is because there not buyont(forgive the spelling) so the immediately sink to the bottom. Don't know how true it is but it sounds right. But yeah smokehound is dead on. Catfish such as flatheads in particular will eat things like shad, small trout, minnows, etc. I once cut open a blue with some shad in its belly.

Cartman
05-29-2012, 10:07 AM
Thanks for the post, TaperSteve. It has a lot of good suggestions in it. And here is the "but". But we should acknowledge that there is not a one-size-fits-all method of fishing for catfish any more than there is for any other fish. Fly-lining for catfish is fine if you can reach where the fish are without any weight. Cut bait is great if that's what they're taking. I have caught more cats on home-made dough bait than on cut bait. I can't see any reason to use a 5/0 hook in one of our local lakes. Sure, there are catfish big enough to take a mackerel head at Puddingstone for instance, but the ones you're likely to catch you can catch on a #4 or #2 hook. "J" hook, circle hook, wide gap, bait holder...there are a lot of hook choices. I for one would not leave my bail open while fishing at night. Could lose a lot of line before you had any idea what was going on. Maybe fishing a carolina rig with some slack to give the fish some running room. I'm not trying to start a fight; I'm just saying that there is more to catching catfish than can be described in one post. There are a lot of different approaches. For those just getting into it, there are dozens of web sites and fishing boards dedicated to catching catfish, and lots of different ways to go about doing it. You need to take into consideration the fish, the lake, current conditions, where the fish might be in the water table, depth you're fishing, and all kinds of stuff when you're fishing for catfish. Just my two cents worth. :My Two Cents:

TaperSteve
05-29-2012, 12:07 PM
I'll second this comment, I learned that one reason why catfish spend so much time on the bottom is because there not buyont(forgive the spelling) so the immediately sink to the bottom. Don't know how true it is but it sounds right. But yeah smokehound is dead on. Catfish such as flatheads in particular will eat things like shad, small trout, minnows, etc. I once cut open a blue with some shad in its belly.

At most California lakes it is against the law to use live fish for bait like trout, bluegills, etc.... thus that is why I decided not to mention it. Catfish definetly love to gorge on live bait from time to time, too bad we aren't allowed to use it at most places in Cali.


Thanks for the post, TaperSteve. It has a lot of good suggestions in it. And here is the "but". But we should acknowledge that there is not a one-size-fits-all method of fishing for catfish any more than there is for any other fish. Fly-lining for catfish is fine if you can reach where the fish are without any weight. Cut bait is great if that's what they're taking. I have caught more cats on home-made dough bait than on cut bait. I can't see any reason to use a 5/0 hook in one of our local lakes. Sure, there are catfish big enough to take a mackerel head at Puddingstone for instance, but the ones you're likely to catch you can catch on a #4 or #2 hook. "J" hook, circle hook, wide gap, bait holder...there are a lot of hook choices. I for one would not leave my bail open while fishing at night. Could lose a lot of line before you had any idea what was going on. Maybe fishing a carolina rig with some slack to give the fish some running room. I'm not trying to start a fight; I'm just saying that there is more to catching catfish than can be described in one post. There are a lot of different approaches. For those just getting into it, there are dozens of web sites and fishing boards dedicated to catching catfish, and lots of different ways to go about doing it. You need to take into consideration the fish, the lake, current conditions, where the fish might be in the water table, depth you're fishing, and all kinds of stuff when you're fishing for catfish. Just my two cents worth. :My Two Cents:

You mentioned many things that I plan on going in to details about in future tutorials. I was just trying to start off this first tutorial with a basic basic guidline one would need to go to just about any lake in California rather fishing from a boat or shore and be able to catch catfish.

You talked about occasions when a weight is needed, as I mentioned in this tutorial I plan on going into details about multiple rigging options in a future tutorial.

You also made mention that you have caught more cats on your homemade doughbait recipe than any cutbait. While I definetly plan on going over that in my future bait tutorial including maybe even a recipe or two, not everyone has the same recipe for a homemade doughbait that you use. If you have a killer recipe please do share I'm sure many of us would like to make it and give it a try.

Many of the lakes in Cali have catfish up to and over 100lbs! For instance, a local paylake (Irvine Lake) hasn't started their catfish season yet but in the last month there has been over half a dozen blues and channels in the 20lb class that have been caught. Another fish broke the 30lb mark and that same guy caught one that was just under 50lbs in that same day. Some buddies of mine caught three of those 20+lb fish along with a few DD's and a bunch of 5-10lb fish to fill out their limits. I think their total stringer weight for the three of them (15 fish) weighed in over 150lbs!

Look up a basic catfish hook set that many different companies make. Here is a link to one such kit: http://www.basspro.com/Gamakatsu-Catfish-Kit/product/94772/38621

Most kits you'll find like this one all come in the range of 1/0 - 10/0 for catfish and if your using anything smaller than that you run the risk of a big cat straightening out the hook on you. As I said in this tutorial I plan on going over all the different hook options in my future tutorial covering rigging options. I for one would never use any type of hook smaller than a 1/0 for catfish but to each his own I guess. Like I said in this tutorial the main thing is to match the size hook to the size bait your using. Don't want to use a #4 hook on a large mackeral head hoping to catch the next 10+lb cat.

Everyone has their own way of doing things, their own way they learned or were taught. Really there is no right or wrong, you might have an entirely different way of doing things that catches you fish. All I'm trying to do is pass along some friendly info on the methods that most catch me fish.

Please stay tuned for my next tutorial coming out soon titled Catfish Fishing 101: Location, location, location....

Frequent Flyer
05-29-2012, 12:18 PM
on the hook issue, i think Cartman was referring to using a size 2 or 4 when fishing the small city park lakes and not irvine, corona, and sarl where there is the chance to hook into a monster. i might be wrong though. but this is good starting information and im anticipating your next articles

TaperSteve
05-29-2012, 12:28 PM
http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?63480-Cats-are-biting-NOW-at-Irvine-Lake-Video-Clips-April-21
http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?63433-Nick-Vega-quot-NVCattracker-quot-with-two-Double-Digit-Blue-Catfish-today!
http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?63465-Two-more-20lb-plus-Catfish-hit-the-scales-today!
http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?63262-Chris-quot-Trollmesiter-quot-Hagopian-lands-a-28-2-Blue-Catfish!
http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?63574-Two-30-LB-Blue-Catfish-landed-today!!

Ohh man I can't wait for this summer!

TS

TaperSteve
05-29-2012, 12:45 PM
on the hook issue, i think Cartman was referring to using a size 2 or 4 when fishing the small city park lakes and not irvine, corona, and sarl where there is the chance to hook into a monster. i might be wrong though. but this is good starting information and im anticipating your next articles

Yeah def if your fishing a body of water where you don't anticipate catching anything over a pound or two than maybe a small hook like that can work out. But on that note every lake has its record and you never know when that next lake record fish of a lifetime might find its way at the end of your line.

TS

TaperSteve
05-29-2012, 12:49 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/TaperSteve/7-8-11/untitled.png
13lb channel catfish!

TS

smokehound
05-29-2012, 12:52 PM
At most California lakes it is against the law to use live fish for bait like trout, bluegills, etc.... thus that is why I decided not to mention it. Catfish definetly love to gorge on live bait from time to time, too bad we aren't allowed to use it at most places in Cali. That's true. However I mentioned that because catfish will eagerly slam a lure, especially if it's a scented plastic, or dipped in attractant! I just had to clarify that catfish have good eyesight, and in gin-clear water, switching to a lighter line will definitely produce more kitties.

Try dragging some soft plastics around your catfish spot, you'll be surprised how effective lures can be when targeting channel catfish.

5150fishn
05-29-2012, 01:22 PM
Good stuff Steve. I appreciate the info. being a somewhat rookie at the catfish game. Keep the info coming bro.

TaperSteve
05-29-2012, 01:32 PM
That's true. However I mentioned that because catfish will eagerly slam a lure, especially if it's a scented plastic, or dipped in attractant! I just had to clarify that catfish have good eyesight, and in gin-clear water, switching to a lighter line will definitely produce more kitties.

Try dragging some soft plastics around your catfish spot, you'll be surprised how effective lures can be when targeting channel catfish.

Ohh for sure. I've caught cats while trolling with leadcore. Last month I lost a BIG, BIG, cat while trolling by the dam at the Vine.

Thanx for the input keep it coming!

TS

Perris_holic
05-31-2012, 10:37 AM
When you guys use shrimp for bait where do you get it from, the grocery store?

LGHT
06-04-2012, 09:42 AM
Very helpful post and information. Is it possible to catch cats during the day at all? I read they swim around and search for food at night, but prefer to fish during the day if possible. I live pretty close to Irvine Lake and wanted to target cats from my float tube this summer.

Anyone tube for cats during the day at Irvine and want to help out the new guy?

Frequent Flyer
06-04-2012, 05:18 PM
When you guys use shrimp for bait where do you get it from, the grocery store?

usually just a 1/2 lb-1 lb. from any mexican or asian market with the heads on and everything...

TaperSteve
06-04-2012, 07:09 PM
Very helpful post and information. Is it possible to catch cats during the day at all? I read they swim around and search for food at night, but prefer to fish during the day if possible. I live pretty close to Irvine Lake and wanted to target cats from my float tube this summer.

Anyone tube for cats during the day at Irvine and want to help out the new guy?

Yes you can definitely catch cats during the day. Irvine hasn't started their summer hours yet and all those giant cats in those pictures I posted links to above were caught during the day. They don't move around as much during the day so if your anchored up at one spot during the day and don't get any bites after 45 minutes then its time to move to a new spot (if possible).

Steve

TaperSteve
06-04-2012, 07:11 PM
usually just a 1/2 lb-1 lb. from any mexican or asian market with the heads on and everything...

yeah the whole ones (head, tail, legs, and all....) work best. Some people like to use bigger ones but being a tight wade I usually buy whatever count is on sale.

TS

Karyn
06-05-2012, 04:16 PM
Great, informative read. Thanks for taking the time to put it together. That's a ton of great info!

LGHT
06-07-2012, 08:37 AM
Thanks for the tips. Is it possible to use a float tube to catch the cats at Irvine or do you suggest just getting a boat rental so I can cover more area quickly?

Anyone float tube cat fish guides around?? I'll bring my WSM and stoker if you want to camp out!

Perris_holic
06-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Thanks for all the info guys. Im thinking about going to Irvine lake sunday and fishing from the shore, but I have no idea where the catfish shore hotspots are

InspectaDekz
06-09-2012, 07:43 AM
Do you use the shrimp with the heads on or off?

fishinjim
06-10-2012, 12:31 PM
Yes you can definitely catch cats during the day. Irvine hasn't started their summer hours yet and all those giant cats in those pictures I posted links to above were caught during the day. They don't move around as much during the day so if your anchored up at one spot during the day and don't get any bites after 45 minutes then its time to move to a new spot (if possible).

Steve

Do you know when irvine does start their summer hours?

Perris_holic
06-18-2012, 01:34 PM
Anyone ever use a santee rig?

Frequent Flyer
06-18-2012, 08:50 PM
Anyone ever use a santee rig?

why dont you just add 1/4-1/2 of a marshmallow along with your mealworm or shrimp? it works the same way by having it suspend in the water column

Perris_holic
06-18-2012, 10:24 PM
why dont you just add 1/4-1/2 of a marshmallow along with your mealworm or shrimp? it works the same way by having it suspend in the water column
Is it the jumbo marshmellow? Can I use that with mackerel also. I plan on going to Irvine this weekend and I was gonna take mackerel, night crawlers and chicken livers

smokehound
06-19-2012, 01:33 PM
If you're going for big kitties marshmallows are usually out of the question.

This is why I stress using a high/low rig!

Whatever the case you need the bait OFF the bottom.

Flylining is better than a c-rig. It allows catfish to bump the bait around more freely

Perris_holic
06-19-2012, 02:37 PM
If you're going for big kitties marshmallows are usually out of the question.

This is why I stress using a high/low rig!

Whatever the case you need the bait OFF the bottom.

Flylining is better than a c-rig. It allows catfish to bump the bait around more freely
What is a high low rig?

Frequent Flyer
06-19-2012, 08:18 PM
If you're going for big kitties marshmallows are usually out of the question.

This is why I stress using a high/low rig!

Whatever the case you need the bait OFF the bottom.

Flylining is better than a c-rig. It allows catfish to bump the bait around more freely

because it makes it look unnatural or what?

DockRat
06-21-2012, 05:30 AM
Flylining is better than a c-rig. It allows catfish to bump the bait around more freely

I was reading about Ronson Smothers and he uses Mackerel or Bonito chunks dipped in his sauce then
Fly Lines with a spinning reel and leaves the bail open. Then he waits 20 seconds after getting bit to set the hook. The dude is the catfish king.
DR

Perris_holic
06-21-2012, 12:45 PM
I was reading about Ronson Smothers and he uses Mackerel or Bonito chunks dipped in his sauce then
Fly Lines with a spinning reel and leaves the bail open. Then he waits 20 seconds after getting bit to set the hook. The dude is the catfish king.
DR
I think Im going to try this method on sunday at Irvine Lake

gavin310
06-24-2012, 11:46 PM
While fishing for stocker sized cats at Irvine, keeping my bait off the bottom definitely increased my success. I fished the same spot many times (shore fishing in boat dock cove) and tried different methods. I found which method works best for me and now I always go home with at least a few fish. At first I used a larger hook and bait and fished the bottom. I was only catching stockers (1.5 - 3 lb.) and missing quite a few. I'm more than happy catching cats that size, so I just focused on catching those and not waiting for a big one. I put my weight on the bottom and about 1.5' - 2' up I added a short leader (about 4"). I was using 8 lb. mono. I switched to a smaller hook (#6 J hook) and SMALL pieces of shrimp or mackerel (cut in pieces a little bit bigger than the size of the hook) soaked in stink bait overnight. For the stinkbait, I've had by far the most success with Hog Wild mixed with W-D-3. W-D-3 is awesome and works very well at most places, but at Irvine mixing it with Hog Wild gets more bites. The spot I was fishing at has lots of vegetation on the bottom, which could be why keeping the bait off the bottom helps. Keep the line tight and be ready to set the hook quickly on the fish. I haven't used rods other than my 7' Ugly Stik Lite rods (the cork handle ones), but it seems those have the perfect action for this type of fishing. I've only not hooked a few fish that have bitten and I think the action of the rod helps with this.

If I was hoping for something larger than 4 or 5 pounds I wouldn't use this method. I'd use TaperSteve's method or a Carolina rig.

Hitts0n
06-25-2012, 12:11 AM
How can i learn to own ?

fishincrave
06-25-2012, 09:03 PM
how can i learn to own ?


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Big Daddy
06-25-2012, 09:11 PM
How can i learn to own ?

You First start by showing up Cousin.

smokehound
06-26-2012, 06:58 AM
Blech I hate hogwild.. That's one thing I'll never carry on me.


I'd rather smell like fish than poop. lol

gavin310
06-26-2012, 07:46 AM
Blech I hate hogwild.. That's one thing I'll never carry on me.


I'd rather smell like fish than poop. lol

Yeah it smells like poop.

InspectaDekz
06-26-2012, 01:00 PM
I like to use shrimp and Mack that have been marinated with either bite on Cajun or love sauce. Seems like the Cats at the vine like it.

Gio Perez
07-30-2014, 04:49 PM
I caught my #32 Blue Cat on the sink, literally 6-7 seconds after the cast.

TUNAVIC
09-21-2017, 10:32 AM
Great info there,thanks!

Cya Tuna Vic