President Obama /// Kind words.

[DockRat]

Into his 4th year. Please tell us what positive impact he has made in your life.

I'll go first. :Cool:
He passed a bill so my 2 adult non college enrolled kids able to get
back on my health insurance.
Thank You President Obama.

Anybody else ?
DR

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/moirafae/macro/gifs/obama_jonasbrothers02.gif


http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o240/NMoretta/Posts/Obama-Palin-Dancing.jpg
BTW, Did you happen to see him and Sara on the new 'Dancing with the Stars' ?
He can really dance.

[Which Way Out]

Mama always said, "If you don't have anything nice to say, Don't say it".................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .....................................

[Natural Lefty]

President Obama's solar energy stimulus will help us end our dependence on fossil fuels, and is bringing a lot of jobs to this region. Personally, due to the solar energy program, a solar company (no, not Solyndra and the great majority of solar companies are doing fine) are in the process of buying my wife's land near Blythe for a lot of money. They will turn it into a solar energy production area.

Thank you President Obama.

[Perris Bluegill Chaser]

This is a joke.....Don't bite....it will go on and on............

[HawgZWylde]

..........He's :Censored: :Outta Here:

[evosamurai]

anybody see these bumber stickers?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/evosamurai/DontRenigBumperSticker.jpg

[DarkShadow]

anybody see these bumber stickers?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/evosamurai/DontRenigBumperSticker.jpg

You just ruined DockRat's posts for June's primary in California!

[evosamurai]

haha they have shirts also^^^

[DarkShadow]

haha they have shirts also^^^

Should be a big hit in the flyover states.







•
And Orange County.

[seal]

President Obama's solar energy stimulus will help us end our dependence on fossil fuels, and is bringing a lot of jobs to this region. Personally, due to the solar energy program, a solar company (no, not Solyndra and the great majority of solar companies are doing fine) are in the process of buying my wife's land near Blythe for a lot of money. They will turn it into a solar energy production area.

Thank you President Obama.

Cool solar energy fields, wait the environmentalists want to save the turtles and every other creature out there.

Let the lawsuits begin, Good Luck!

[Stormcrow]

President Obama's solar energy stimulus will help us end our dependence on fossil fuels, and is bringing a lot of jobs to this region. Personally, due to the solar energy program, a solar company (no, not Solyndra and the great majority of solar companies are doing fine) are in the process of buying my wife's land near Blythe for a lot of money. They will turn it into a solar energy production area.

Thank you President Obama.


This is one of the most comical, and ignorant posts I think I may have ever read in an online forum.

[seal]

This is one of the most comical, and ignorant posts I think I may have ever read in an online forum.

Boy and I thought it bothered me reading it!

[DarkShadow]

Cool solar energy fields, wait the environmentalists want to save the turtles and every other creature out there.


You forgot seals. The hippies also want to save seals.

[evosamurai]

good i took a solar training class through my union....looking to get out on one of those solar jobs.

[smokehound]

Obama taught me you can get a Nobel prize for breaking every promise you've made.

[HawgZWylde]

Obama taught me you can get a Nobel prize for breaking every promise you've made.

It was just announced that Sean Penn gets one next...

[Frequent Flyer]

better than santorum...

[HawgZWylde]

Cool solar energy fields, wait the environmentalists want to save the turtles and every other creature out there.

Let the lawsuits begin, Good Luck!


As an offroad dirtbike enthusiast of 40 years, they have been suing to get us offroaders out of the deserts for decades in order to "protect" the tortoise. The have now killed thousands with their mega acreage solar panel farms. Oh the hypocrisy...

[HawgZWylde]

good i took a solar training class through my union....looking to get out on one of those solar jobs.

Enjoy it while it lasts, Cali, and the feds are broke. The taxpayer subsidies that nearly fund these, are going to dry up. Then, under the bus you go...

[HawgZWylde]

This is one of the most comical, and ignorant posts I think I may have ever read in an online forum.

Lol, apparently you haven't visited the Huffington Post, media matters, or move on dot org. Try having a look at a Yahoo news article comment board, your sides will hurt for days from laughter...

[HawgZWylde]

anybody see these bumber stickers?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/evosamurai/DontRenigBumperSticker.jpg

So what's the point in posting that here? It's disgusting. It says nothing of the republican party as a whole. One lunatic and suddenly everyone who opposes Obama is a racist? Is that what you are implying? I'll tell you what, the leftist lunatic bin is by far fuller than the moderate-rights. Study the history of the KKK. It was begun by democrats. One of the lefts favorite congressmen Robert Byrd, was a recruiter for the KKK. Racism is in all walks of life, and is truly disgusting. Perhaps I should bring up racists like Farrakhan, the Black Panthers, but what's the point? How is that going to help us all get along? Enough race baiting for electioneering purposes already. He will lose the election on his record, not his skin color...

[smokehound]

better than santorum...A sun-bleached dog turd covered in blowflies is better than santorum. :LOL:

[HawgZWylde]

A sun-bleached dog turd covered in blowflies is better than santorum. :LOL:

Lol, that doesn't say much for Obama, because all the candidates would be worlds better than this current disaster administration...

[DockRat]

He will lose the election on his record, not his skin color...
X2
Any race is good for me. He didn't even have much of a record in 2008 to run on.


http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr249/P_J5280/whiteobama.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb160/SouthCountyMO/white-obama.jpg
DR

[DarkShadow]

Lol, that doesn't say much for Obama, because all the candidates would be worlds better than this current disaster administration...

Now, what would Obama's re-election say about the Republican Party as a whole, if apparently any of their candidates should be able to beat him easily, especially with his shaky track record that you elude to?

[evosamurai]

So what's the point in posting that here? It's disgusting. It says nothing of the republican party as a whole. One lunatic and suddenly everyone who opposes Obama is a racist? Is that what you are implying? I'll tell you what, the leftist lunatic bin is by far fuller than the moderate-rights. Study the history of the KKK. It was begun by democrats. One of the lefts favorite congressmen Robert Byrd, was a recruiter for the KKK. Racism is in all walks of life, and is truly disgusting. Perhaps I should bring up racists like Farrakhan, the Black Panthers, but what's the point? How is that going to help us all get along? Enough race baiting for electioneering purposes already. He will lose the election on his record, not his skin color...

im not implying anything just asking if anyone seen these they are out there....im not a racist

[HawgZWylde]

Now, what would Obama's re-election say about the Republican Party as a whole, if apparently any of their candidates should be able to beat him easily, especially with his shaky track record that you elude to?

I said they would be worlds better. It would say this country, and it's historical form of government, and economic model, are in deep trouble. And I'll say this as well, if it's a close election, proving who you are would be a huge factor since the left is so adamant about defeating any kind of sensible voter ID law. Serious trouble indeed...

[HawgZWylde]

im not implying anything just asking if anyone seen these they are out there....im not a racist

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you are a racist. This incident is being exploited right now by the left in all political media. It's the tactic that's racist, as well as the incident itself...

[evosamurai]

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you are a racist. This incident is being exploited right now by the left in all political media. It's the tactic that's racist, as well as the incident itself...

yeah i just posted it up for humor, the lady who made the stickers claims she isnt a racist lol thats what makes it humorous

http://eclectablog.blogspot.com/2012/03/racist-denies-hes-racist-says-dont.html

[TroutOnly]

Impact on my life, other than raising my taxes, zero,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no-bama,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[evosamurai]

saw this too on the road...not this one exactly but same message
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/evosamurai/obama_bumper_sticker_by_barfbag82.jpg

[HawgZWylde]

yeah i just posted it up for humor, the lady who made the stickers claims she isnt a racist lol thats what makes it humorous

http://eclectablog.blogspot.com/2012/03/racist-denies-hes-racist-says-dont.html

That's cool. But that blogger failed to mention that the lady is correct, but naively wrong on her wording. The blogger did not show this word and it's meanings for which she uses in her defense;

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/niggardly

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/niggardly

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=niggardly

or even this

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=niggerd

http://freefactfinder.com/definition/Niggerd.html

She should have known the Obama campaign would run with this one...

[Perris Bluegill Chaser]

im not implying anything just asking if anyone seen these they are out there....im not a racist
ok if you say your not....then it's true!

[evosamurai]

ok if you say your not....then it's true!

aww u got me PBC

[trail blazer]

x2
any race is good for me. He didn't even have much of a record in 2008 to run on.


http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr249/p_j5280/whiteobama.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb160/southcountymo/white-obama.jpg
dr



wow,,,,,,,,,lolololol

[seal]

You forgot seals. The hippies also want to save seals.

I consider myself a hippie and a seal. Save the hippie's!!!

[DockRat]

Impact on my life, other than raising my taxes, zero,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no-bama,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

X2
Free Government pain relief with your EBT card. http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh244/Xiloveyoustupid/vaseline.jpg

Kinda funny how all the FNN Obama supporters are
are having problems bring anything to the table ?
How about extended benefits and EBT cards ? :Secret:
So much for 'Kind words'
DR

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt53/flor_mishi/obama-looking-at-girl.jpg

[DockRat]

only DR,could startup somemore BS. AND STIR THE POT.....VERY SAD...

PMB FYI
I did not start the bumper sticker reply.
WHY DON'T YOU DIRECT YOUR REPLY TO THE PERSON THAT DID.

This is a election year so get ready for some bashing back and forth with both parties.
Wait for the TV commercials.

Racism is very much alive in 2012. Al Sharpton proved that yesterday in Florida.
N word is also common in young African Americans. They say daily and use it in rap music.
That is sad.

PMB Did you have anything positive to bring ?
Do you have any ' Kind words ' about the president ?

As far as the white Obama pics the is just humor as seen in this George W pics. BFD.
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd387/smegal69/funnies/Bush-monkey.gif

Peace out. DR

[evosamurai]

politics are one thing.butt,why would u insult some members, by posting a pic of hate like that??? i cant believe the board doesnt delete this post.only DR,could startup somemore BS. AND STIR THE POT.....VERY SAD...

i saw this bumper sticker, it was also shown on abc news...more people seen it on there pal...c'mon you need to lighten up a little, i didnt post it up for hate

[evosamurai]

i cant believe the moderator.is allowing this racial crap to go on.......

its humor, they are just pictures c'mon some people are just too serious

[evosamurai]

Enjoy it while it lasts, Cali, and the feds are broke. The taxpayer subsidies that nearly fund these, are going to dry up. Then, under the bus you go...

nah my main occupation is TBAR, solar panel installation is supposed to be a back up but they are taking forever to break ground on them, the only big solar job is at state line, but ill stick to acoustical ceilings.

[HawgZWylde]

politics are one thing.butt,why would u insult some members, by posting a pic of hate like that??? i cant believe the board doesnt delete this post.only DR,could startup somemore BS. AND STIR THE POT.....VERY SAD...

For one DR didn't post that, another member did. And why not discuss politics here, it's a general discussion thread right? This election is the most important in the history of our nation, this should be talked about everywhere it can be. So, because we oppose the current administration, it's bee ess? As far as the bumper sticker, did you see my post above? If not, click on the links I provided. The lady who manufactured these made a poor choice, but she did not have racism in mind. It's the democrats, as usual, who are creating a crisis for political gain. And by running with this incident, and promoting it as racism, is race baiting, and that is racist in and of itself. For nearly 4 years now, we have had an administration, and a progressive liberal party that is using class warfare, and cultural warfare as a means of dividing us in their attempt at "fundamentally changing" America. Obama's own words. This Administration has advanced socialism banging on our door, and I, and millions of others are not going to sit idly by and allow it to happen. This is exactly what this current administration hopes people will do, avoid talking politics. We have to talk about it, everything these politicians do affects each and everyone of our lives. Incrementally, we are becoming more and more totalitarian, more of our God given INDIVIDUAL rights are being taken away for the sake of the collective. This must be stopped, and reversed, or our future generations will not have the same opportunities that our country has enjoyed since it's inception. So, with all that being said, I say, carry on DR...

[seal]

peace out my azzzz. the poking about bush is not racial.he was a moron..

George Bush has shown nothing but class since leaving office! You are an idiot for using that term to describe one of our ex Presidents, SHOW SOME DAMN RESPECT!! I'd never use that term to describe Obama just don't have the same beliefs, because you don't believe the same as another does not make that other person an idiot or a moron!!!!!

[HawgZWylde]

George Bush has shown nothing but class since leaving office! You are an idiot for using that term to describe one of our ex Presidents, SHOW SOME DAMN RESPECT!! I'd never use that term to describe Obama just don't have the same beliefs, because you don't believe the same as another does not make that other person an idiot!!!!!

Absolutely Seal...

[HawgZWylde]

George Bush has shown nothing but class since leaving office! You are an idiot for using that term to describe one of our ex Presidents, SHOW SOME DAMN RESPECT!! I'd never use that term to describe Obama just don't have the same beliefs, because you don't believe the same as another does not make that other person an idiot!!!!!

Absolutely Seal...

[HawgZWylde]

Hmm, weird stuff still happening here, I did not click twice, so why did that post twice?

[DarkShadow]

Hmm, weird stuff still happening here, I did not click twice, so why did that post twice?

Left wing conspiracy?

[HawgZWylde]

Left wing conspiracy?

Hmm, I thought it was just a technical glitch...

[HawgZWylde]

nah my main occupation is TBAR, solar panel installation is supposed to be a back up but they are taking forever to break ground on them, the only big solar job is at state line, but ill stick to acoustical ceilings.

I was a foreman for a commercial TI company for most of the 90's, did a lot of T-bar back in those days. All of those solar projects are government subsidized, even solar systems being installed on private homes, and are not panning out. And probably won't. Taxpayers should not be funding any of this. If this industry is legit, private enterprise through consumer demand and investment will make it profitable, as it has since the inception of this country. I'd stick with ceilings right now too. Even that, construction, will come back fast with new policy in DC...

[cutbait]

The term racist will have been so watered down by the end of this election its sickening.

I find I funny how someone who gets easily bent out of shape resorts in name calling only a few posts later.

LMAO.. but he's tolerant in his own mind, ask him? Really , ask him. He's had experiences in his life and he's very qualified to judge

[exfactor]

As long as this country is based on a Republican, or democratic basis in the electorial college, we will have only 2 choices for our next president.
My opinion is that our system is flawed because of this, and anyone not buying a share of these two parties will fall by the wayside. That isn't very
open and free in my view. May take a major upheaval from the people to change this system. Unfortunately, "none of the above" is not an accept-
able vote.

[Natural Lefty]

Yes, PMB, I thought Dockrat was being serious when he started this thread, and maybe he was, but it's strange how I am the most ignorant person on this board, along with you, according to these bullies, but Dockrat gets a free pass. According to their own criteria, Dockrat should be the second most ignorant person on this board. Why don't they accuse him? Hmm -- interesting.

Either other people haven't seen this thread, or you and I, PMB, are the only people with enough gumption to stand up to this right-wing commando group. Personally, I think they are jealous of my success, jealous of my education, and jealous of my intellectual skills. The more threatened some people feel, the more they complain. "Me thinks thou dost protest too much," as Shakespeare said. They know deep down that Romney or any other GOP candidate doesn't stand much of a chance of beating Obama this year. (Thank God!) But that will just give them 4 more years to complain and make remarks smacking of veiled racism -- or perhaps, finally the masks will come off.

If you people hate liberal California so much, why do you live here? Do you really think you will win over the public by making ad hominem attacks on your fellow Californians and racist comments about our President, or by the distortions of the political record required to present your point of view?

I agree, Exfactor; we desperately need a multiparty political system. It would be freer and fairer than what we now have, but it will take a major upheaval to achieve this reform, as you state.

[Perris Bluegill Chaser]

Dockrat hasn't gotten band yet, Because he like it with no grease....
Yes, PMB, I thought Dockrat was being serious when he started this thread, and maybe he was, but it's strange how I am the most ignorant person on this board, along with you, according to these bullies, but Dockrat gets a free pass. According to their own criteria, Dockrat should be the second most ignorant person on this board. Why don't they accuse him? Hmm -- interesting.

Either other people haven't seen this thread, or you and I, PMB, are the only people with enough gumption to stand up to this right-wing commando group. Personally, I think they are jealous of my success, jealous of my education, and jealous of my intellectual skills. The more threatened some people feel, the more they complain. "Me thinks thou dost protest too much," as Shakespeare said. They know deep down that Romney or any other GOP candidate doesn't stand much of a chance of beating Obama this year. (Thank God!) But that will just give them 4 more years to complain and make remarks smacking of veiled racism -- or perhaps, finally the masks will come off.

If you people hate liberal California so much, why do you live here? Do you really think you will win over the public by making ad hominem attacks on your fellow Californians and racist comments about our President, or by the distortions of the political record required to present your point of view?

I agree, Exfactor; we desperately need a multiparty political system. It would be freer and fairer than what we now have, but it will take a major upheaval to achieve this reform, as you state.

[cutbait]

i have 0 tolerance for any ignorent statements,and racial profiling. ...

In the same paragraph he says this


.of course the same 5 or so ,great white hunters, will come in with there right wing bashing ways.the same patriots ,who hire illegals to work at low wages ,and do there yards,and clean there house....

Yet he utters this gem of reverse racism

At bare minimum its one of the most aggregious examples of hyprocrisy I've seen.


Oh and I told he he had plenty of examples how his past qualified him to cast judgement

[cutbait]

Yes, PMB, I thought Dockrat was being serious when he started this thread, and maybe he was, but it's strange how I am the most ignorant person on this board, along with you, according to these bullies, but Dockrat gets a free pass. According to their own criteria, Dockrat should be the second most ignorant person on this board. Why don't they accuse him? Hmm -- interesting.

Either other people haven't seen this thread, or you and I, PMB, are the only people with enough gumption to stand up to this right-wing commando group. Personally, I think they are jealous of my success, jealous of my education, and jealous of my intellectual skills. The more threatened some people feel, the more they complain. "Me thinks thou dost protest too much," as Shakespeare said. They know deep down that Romney or any other GOP candidate doesn't stand much of a chance of beating Obama this year. (Thank God!) But that will just give them 4 more years to complain and make remarks smacking of veiled racism -- or perhaps, finally the masks will come off.

If you people hate liberal California so much, why do you live here? Do you really think you will win over the public by making ad hominem attacks on your fellow Californians and racist comments about our President, or by the distortions of the political record required to present your point of view?

I agree, Exfactor; we desperately need a multiparty political system. It would be freer and fairer than what we now have, but it will take a major upheaval to achieve this reform, as you state.

Ok, who are you and what is this success, "superior intelligence" and education that you have that I should be jealous of?

" Ignorant, bullies, veiled racism...."

The left hopes for reelection in a nutshell

Please save us with your superior intellect and "tolerant" of others beliefs... LMAO!!!!

You guys look like the crash bullies IMO

[cutbait]

i cant believe, i got myself into DRS BS again.i only can call it as i see it,like i said a month ago.since theres only 2 choices,and so far 3 choices.i have to choose on a wealthy plastic puppet ,with his own personnel agenda.his own party says hes not conservative enough,because he just wants the ultimate trophy ,of aceiving the office of president.the other is a freaking religous nut, who wants to take womens right back 100yrs., cause the unwanted birth rate ,to go up,and outlaw preventive contaceptives, out law sex out of marrage,and sex only for purposes of conception,and then the right, can ***** about having to provide welfare for them.and then a person running who shows class,carisma,and a reasonble caring for our countries issues. hitting walls where ever he turns.when he trys to make things better.i challenge the other side to give me a viable ,intellegent,honest candidate.then u got my vote..of course, here we go again with the personnell,attacks from the great white hunters club.because they have no answer.only to call me ,or any other person, who has an opinion,a liberal communist.its kind of funny, i voted for nixon the first time could ever vote.

First off you need to learn the facts and quit listening to NPR and Olbermann...

Santorum is NOT trying to set back womens right at all, nor is he wanting to change any laws/legislation restricting any form of contraception.

{Darkshadow here is your left wing conspiracy in fruition}

I almost barfed reading your sappy love letter for "the candidate"

If you refer to me or others as Great white hunters, you do not see how you yourself, who is soooooo intolerant of any form of racism is INFACT typing racist comments!!!


How about Obama calling the Cambridge police officer who arrested his Proffessor as "acting stupidly" when infact the officer was acting entirely in character.

Just last week C-lo performed F-you at the white house.... THere is some real class there isn't it

[evosamurai]

Dockrat hasn't gotten band yet, Because he like it with no grease....

no i dont think he's in a band, does he play an instrument?

[evosamurai]

getting a buzz and reading all the comments....fun

[DarkShadow]

{Darkshadow here is your left wing conspiracy in fruition}



Told you so.

[cutbait]

i grew up with people like u.thinking it was ok to make ur ignorent statements, about all people of color.thinking i was a good old boy,cause i looked anglo, my mother had to work herself as a kid during the summer .as a migrant worker.to put food on the table for all of us,she was born here.her and my father were very successful ,and were able to give us a comfortable upbringing.when i saw her denied service at a resturant ,by some ignorent ,uneducated piece of crap woman,ur dam right im going to voice my opinion,when it comes to bashing of any minority.thats something u never forget.i judge people by there deeds,crap some of my best friends are anglos.after all were all AMERICANS...


Dude, stop already,,,

Your digging a deeper hole.

Im pretty sure you've become everything you struggled against.

What your typing is reverse racism

[HawgZWylde]

First off you need to learn the facts and quit listening to NPR and Olbermann...

Santorum is NOT trying to set back womens right at all, nor is he wanting to change any laws/legislation restricting any form of contraception.

{Darkshadow here is your left wing conspiracy in fruition}

I almost barfed reading your sappy love letter for "the candidate"

If you refer to me or others as Great white hunters, you do not see how you yourself, who is soooooo intolerant of any form of racism is INFACT typing racist comments!!!


How about Obama calling the Cambridge police officer who arrested his Proffessor as "acting stupidly" when infact the officer was acting entirely in character.

Just last week C-lo performed F-you at the white house.... THere is some real class there isn't it

Did you hear about Richard Branson hitting up Obama for a "spliff" at the state dinner last week? That may have been the same function as c-lo's performance. Unbelievable...

[HawgZWylde]

As long as this country is based on a Republican, or democratic basis in the electorial college, we will have only 2 choices for our next president.
My opinion is that our system is flawed because of this, and anyone not buying a share of these two parties will fall by the wayside. That isn't very
open and free in my view. May take a major upheaval from the people to change this system. Unfortunately, "none of the above" is not an accept-
able vote.

There would be another party if there were enough votes to qualify that party on a ballot. But with that being said, can you name one successful country with a multi party system. The only multi party systems I am aware of, are perpetually locked in quagmire, can't get anything done, and are full of corruption...

[evosamurai]

so ur feeling all relaxed, after starting this whole racial crap.with no sense of guilt.unbelievable....now in promise im done...are u kidding me!!!!!!!!!

yea gotta admit im feeling pretty relaxed, and having a good laugh lol

[evosamurai]

there u go nice!!!!!sarah

lol what?....

[HawgZWylde]

there u go nice!!!!!sarah

Sarah? Who is Sarah?

[evosamurai]

im sorry no sleeves but pmb is LHFAO!!!!!!!

dont get it, are you talking about yourself in 3rd person?

[smokehound]

First off you need to learn the facts and quit listening to NPR and Olbermann...

Santorum is NOT trying to set back womens right at all, nor is he wanting to change any laws/legislation restricting any form of contraception.

{Darkshadow here is your left wing conspiracy in fruition}

I almost barfed reading your sappy love letter for "the candidate"

If you refer to me or others as Great white hunters, you do not see how you yourself, who is soooooo intolerant of any form of racism is INFACT typing racist comments!!!


How about Obama calling the Cambridge police officer who arrested his Proffessor as "acting stupidly" when infact the officer was acting entirely in character.

Just last week C-lo performed F-you at the white house.... THere is some real class there isn't it

#1 "One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country.... Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that's okay, contraception is okay. It's not okay. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be."

#2 "If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. ... That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing."

Santorum is DEFINITELY against contraception and if elected he WILL foot a bill banning it. I dont really like obama, but I have to say, these candidates really make him look good!

[evosamurai]

thanks for proving my point...PMB LHFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GOD BLESS U GUYS NEED IT!!!!!!

ok thank you

[cutbait]

Thought u said you were done

[cutbait]

#1 "One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country.... Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that's okay, contraception is okay. It's not okay. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be."

#2 "If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. ... That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing."

Santorum is DEFINITELY against contraception and if elected he WILL foot a bill banning it. I dont really like obama, but I have to say, these candidates really make him look good!

He certainly is against contraception... and your opinion is he will foot a bill banning it. Mine is he will not and never had any intention to and like that other thread... You and I wouldn't be talkin contraception had it not been for Obama trying to force religous {Catholics} healthcare providers to cover just to create/dramatically show the wedge between the evangelical right wing and the progressives.

As I said before they have lost the abortion wedge in American minds so they have to have this...


Oh and along with racist, pig, white Conservatives who cling to guns and religion as stated by the upstanding members of this forum who have likened such as ignorant... Whilst proclaiming self intelligence, education, life experiences whom qualify them to know more than you or I

Be honest with yourself and admit as much as fact,, and if you want we can run down every candidate in history what the say in candidacy and after elected for scores of contradictions

[cutbait]

even u have to admit.that musician comment ,she left it out there ,myself being a real entertainer.she didnt get the fact ,that DR is not. she doesnt get it. i couldnt leave that out there.she did leave it open for some fun!!!!!OH MY GOD IM ACTING LIKE DR........

to be honest I don't know who or what your talking about???

I was lost with the sarah comment and not sure who or what your referring too right here

[HawgZWylde]

#1 "One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country.... Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that's okay, contraception is okay. It's not okay. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be."

#2 "If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. ... That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing."

Santorum is DEFINITELY against contraception and if elected he WILL foot a bill banning it. I dont really like obama, but I have to say, these candidates really make him look good!

Those are HIS opinions Smokehound, as well as his religious beliefs. The same for Catholics, or Muslims for that matter. I don't recall pres. Kennedy ever doing something like that. Nor Reagan, a Christian. Congress has to pass a bill and the president would then either sign it, or veto it. But he WILL foot a bill to stop forcing the taxpayers to pay for it. Why should we? No republican candidate is calling for the outlawing of contraception, that would be political suicide, and they all know that.
This indeed, is a deliberate attempt at politically assassinating the opposition. It all started with a bill introduced by the Obama administration, and his campaign, that would have forced Religious organizations through their medical facilities to fund contraception and abortion. A direct violation of the separation of Church and state statutes under the constitution. That was a deliberate move since they knew those groups would oppose such nonsense, and it wouldn't pass judicial review either. Now, the left has spun it, and are attempting to run away with it. This is smear electioneering at it's best.
This is where the Sandra Fluke incident comes in. Fluke is a democrat hack. She is no young girl at 31 years old, like the media tried to portray. She is a post graduate law student at Georgetown University (can we say expensive? Can't afford the pill?) Her handler is Anita Dunn, a former Obama administration communications director, who now works for a liberal DC PR firm. And she is also affiliated with NBC, CBS, and MSNBC. It's all campaign tactic to divert attention from the issues that will cause Obama's defeat, the economy, the corruption, and his attempt at "fundamentally changing America", Obama's own words, into a progressive liberal socialist utopia-which absolutely does not exist. And certainly never will here in the USA...

[evosamurai]

sarah palin is hot

[cutbait]

dam u guys dont get it. i think sarah palin
would get it.granted her limited intelligence.just think u guys would vote for her, given the chance.maybe she will throw her hat in at the convention.i dont blame u guys, given the present choices.given...now im done pmbs....LHAO.....


You do realize how you come off calling people ignorant, "you people", and limited intelligence?

Especially with your paragraph structuring being the way it is and all

[HawgZWylde]

You do realize how you come off calling people ignorant, "you people", and limited intelligence?

Especially with your paragraph structuring being the way it is and all

No matter how I structure and space my paragraphs, my posts still come out in one big paragraph. Why is this happening?

[HawgZWylde]

sarah palin is hot


X2 And she loves fishing and hunting too boot...

[HawgZWylde]

Yes, PMB, I thought Dockrat was being serious when he started this thread, and maybe he was, but it's strange how I am the most ignorant person on this board, along with you, according to these bullies, but Dockrat gets a free pass. According to their own criteria, Dockrat should be the second most ignorant person on this board. Why don't they accuse him? Hmm -- interesting.

Either other people haven't seen this thread, or you and I, PMB, are the only people with enough gumption to stand up to this right-wing commando group. Personally, I think they are jealous of my success, jealous of my education, and jealous of my intellectual skills. The more threatened some people feel, the more they complain. "Me thinks thou dost protest too much," as Shakespeare said. They know deep down that Romney or any other GOP candidate doesn't stand much of a chance of beating Obama this year. (Thank God!) But that will just give them 4 more years to complain and make remarks smacking of veiled racism -- or perhaps, finally the masks will come off.

If you people hate liberal California so much, why do you live here? Do you really think you will win over the public by making ad hominem attacks on your fellow Californians and racist comments about our President, or by the distortions of the political record required to present your point of view?

I agree, Exfactor; we desperately need a multiparty political system. It would be freer and fairer than what we now have, but it will take a major upheaval to achieve this reform, as you state.

Lol, wow. This post really needs no response as it speaks volumes in and of itself. The spin and rhetoric, lol, indeed. But it definitely begs the question, elitist much?

[DockRat]

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk80/ParisByMorning/Web%20Messages/ratatouille.jpg Band !

Hey PMB, this was suppose to be a ' Kind Words ' thread ?

What Happened ?
As far as dumb photo shopped pics of President Obama and Bush 'RELAX'.

Leno, Letterman ect poke at politicians all the time. OMG so sensitive folks.

I think PMB likes Palin ? http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd81/xbeatenxpassionx/Kissingsmilies.gif

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff153/mwsegrest02/palin-bikini-1-copy.jpg

If somebody says something or makes a dumb bumper sticker about a Prez or politition 'Who cares' ! If someone doesn't like then ignore it.
The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

Originally, the First Amendment applied only to laws enacted by the Congress. However, starting with Gitlow v. New York, the Supreme Court has applied the First Amendment to each state. This was done through the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court has also recognized a series of exceptions to provisions protecting the freedom of speech.


These guys got rich of music using bad words. good for them.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/shananewman/nwa-straight-outta-compton.jpg DR

[cutbait]

im sorry to insult the queen of the gop tea party.ur right im not the most educated person ,and english was not, my best subject.go ahead ,and cast ur vote because of racial bias.crap i think u guys would vote for those guys in mississippi,on the news, that knew they hated the president,cause he was of mixed race, the other good old boy didnt believe in gov.help ,but was getting food stamps.what the hell do u want me ,and others to think...quit bringing me back to defend myself.UR MAKING ME MISS BILL MAUR.............

YOU are the RACIST, YOU are the BIGOT

Everyone of your posts is derogatory, demeaning on this thread.

You need to go take a long look in the mirror before you ever characterize anyone of being a racist.

You generalize every conservative as a racist, back woods, and unintelligent.

On top of that your a bafoon

[DockRat]

If somebody says something or makes a dumb bumper sticker about a Prez or politition 'Who cares' ! If someone doesn't like then ignore it.

Providing it falls within FNN guidelines of course.
DR

[HawgZWylde]

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk80/ParisByMorning/Web%20Messages/ratatouille.jpg Band !

Hey PMB, this was suppose to be a ' Kind Words ' thread ?

What Happened ?
As far as dumb photo shopped pics of President Obama and Bush 'RELAX'.

Leno, Letterman ect poke at politicians all the time. OMG so sensitive folks.

I think PMB likes Palin ? http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd81/xbeatenxpassionx/Kissingsmilies.gif

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff153/mwsegrest02/palin-bikini-1-copy.jpg

If somebody says something or makes a dumb bumper sticker about a Prez or politition 'Who cares' ! If someone doesn't like then ignore it.
The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

Originally, the First Amendment applied only to laws enacted by the Congress. However, starting with Gitlow v. New York, the Supreme Court has applied the First Amendment to each state. This was done through the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court has also recognized a series of exceptions to provisions protecting the freedom of speech.


These guys got rich of music using bad words. good for them.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/shananewman/nwa-straight-outta-compton.jpg DR

Oh would I love to have her as my fishing, hunting and camping partner. All the days camping in a tent and fishing every day, as she loves to do. And the nights by the campfire and then... Oh s**t, I gotta knock this off, I'm married...

[HawgZWylde]

Providing it falls within FNN guidelines of course.
DR


Lol, disclaimer, where's that confounded disclaimer?!

[seal]

thanks for proving my point...PMB LHFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GOD BLESS U GUYS NEED IT!!!!!!

F and U! God blesses those (whatever God you believe in) who do not judge others, we all fail often but in this thread you have failed so miserably that you are now judging our morals by saying we need God's blessing! You are so wrong in so many ways it becomes completely impossibe to keep up with.

Why do you believe you have some moral high ground? You have bundled all of us up in to one little racist bundle of hate, racism is beyond horrible when it is actually racism, when it becomes some liberal rallying cry to get the Democratic political base motiviated it becomes nothing and you become what you fear!!

[HawgZWylde]

F and U! God blesses those (whatever God you believe in) who do not judge others, we all fail often but in this thread you have failed so miserably that you are now judging our morals by saying we need God's blessing! You are so wrong in so many ways it becomes completely impossibe to keep up with.

Why do you believe you have some moral high ground? You have bundled all of us up in to one little racist bundle of hate, racism is beyond horrible when it is actually racism, when it becomes some liberal rallying cry to get the Democratic political base motiviated it becomes nothing and you become what you fear!!

Well said Seal...

By the way, when is our next right wing commando meeting? Lol...

[cutbait]

whats wrong .even a dumb uneducated , 4th gen.american chicano still has a right to an opinion.bothers u.remember thou ive admired ur fishing skills, thru the years. u made this personnel.sorry the facts are the president is black , and will continue.being black.for 4 more years.go ahead and ,use the N word ,u really feel like saying.this is why politics are not a good thing ,in the work place,or among colleges.its a shame a person cant make ,what he sees to be honest comment, from the heart, without personnel comments.because others havent a valid answer.ive decided. i no longer want to part of this racist forum ,and never will post anything again.this forum can kiss my ignorent chicano ***. to all u people of any race ,without a backbone to stand up for urself.we use to call it oreo .KMA....FNN......

in the words of the immortal Kenny Powers....

"peace out"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErFKxSjpXdI

[evosamurai]

dude i love eastbound and down lol kenny powers for president ha ha

[Crawler]

Reverse racism is a bit redundant, dont cha think?

[DockRat]

I think PMB bailed out ? http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp212/Rdilui2/FFCCBailOut.gif
DR

[guest007]

Mind boggling that working class people would for Romney simply because he is a republican, and they are programmed to vote for a republican no matter how bad the choice is. Romney is anti-union, anti-labor, and is bought and paid for by large corporations and their lobbyist. They do not give a flying phuck about your average American. If you have to vote republican, vote for Ron Paul, he is the only true conservative running. I will vote for Ron Paul knowing that California will go democrat anyway. But atleast I voted for a man that truly wants to fix this country. Other than that, I am fine with Obama beating out Romney. Even with all his faults Obama is a by far better choice than Romney. And quite honestly, “republican” or “democrat” is the veil they pull over your eyes. They are all on the same team in Washington. Obama really is just an extension of the Bush whitehouse. His policies are nearly identical. He is way tougher on terrorist and immigration than Bush was, yet you still hear republicans complaining that he isn’t. Crazy. They argue just to argue, and our debt is growing exponentially. This two party system has got to go.

[fishfinder]

Its just such a shame that the lazy and retarded are picking our presidents now. When you have enough people getting money for doing nothing, and all they have to do is vote for the democrats to get there free money, its a done deal. Its a fast moving train that is getting harder to stop.

[smokehound]

Sure, Palin's face is symmetrical, but it's not hot to me.


Actually, she kinda looks like this guy IMO:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-954_S5lm0Nc/TYYknaU3wkI/AAAAAAAAAFo/Ad91yQLsCrQ/s1600/demon_legend.jpg

[BULLDOGBOOGERS]

this is the one I like !!

[evosamurai]

Why are you guys bashing the president??? Lol vote kenny powers for pres 2012

[KID CREOLE]

I find it amazing that on a fishing website there are members here who continue to support and elect people into office who are trying to stop fishing in this state.

There is no better example of a hypocrite!

[DockRat]

I'm guilty as anyone for pushing the boundary but please take these pics down, we have far too many kids and wives looking over our shoulders when we read these boards not to mention our fellow female FNN'ers


Lol, From a site with ads of VERY Busty women looking for guys ?
Overseas singles ads ?
Millionaires need trophy dates ads ?

And what do you do when they go in a liquor store ?
Magazines, Tecate posters ect ?
Then you reply with quote ? U killing me Larry.
Ok, here is some winter and summer pics. DR
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/lucas2369/DSC_1593.jpg
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab262/zig-zag-dude/550%20Hot%20Babes/babe704.jpg

[DarkShadow]

Haha, excellent.

[evosamurai]

DR you dont use adblock plus?....there are zero ads on this website for me, and every other site, it even blocks ads out of videos on youtube, etc. give it a try, makes life waaaay better

[DarkShadow]

DockRat!

You've been censored.

:-(

I was making a collage out of all those pics.

[evosamurai]

how is he censored?

[Big Bear Legal Eagle]

The fact that racial bigotry exists is not surprising, but the fact that those afflicted are not thoroughly humiliated by their hateful views and are so belligerent about openly expressing their ignorance is very depressing.
You disagree with a politician on policy grounds, I get it. But many of these posts are just knee-jerk expressions of racial animus.

[Skyler]

Obama taught me how to use the force:
http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2009/09/Barack-Obama-Light-Saber.jpg

[DockRat]

DR you dont use adblock plus?....
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/theogrit/1sm057crazy.gif You Crazy ! http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/theogrit/1sm057crazy.gif
You've missed some great ads.
DR

[DockRat]

knee-jerk expressions of racial animus.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/mc77pm/animus.jpg
Animus http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/Cooper-Kid/Avatars/WarioConfused.gif :Confused:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Look up animus in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.

Animus may refer to:
Contents

1 Psychology
2 Music
3 Fiction
4 Games
5 Law
6 Other
7 See also

Psychology

Anima and animus, Jungian concepts
The ancient Roman concept of animus or soul
Music

Animus (American ensemble), a Philadelphia, PA based Eastern Mediterranean World Fusion music group
"Animus", a track on the album Music of the Spheres by Mike Oldfield
"Animus", a bonus track on the album A New Era of Corruption by Whitechapel
"Animus", a track on the album Soundtracks for the Blind by Swans
"Animus Vox" a track on the album Drink the Sea by The Glitch Mob
Anima Animus, 1999 album by The Creatures

Fiction

Animus (Doctor Who), a character from the Doctor Who serial The Web Planet
Animus (Encantadia), a fictional character in Etheria
Animus (Marvel Comics), a character in the Marvel Universe
Animus, the alter-ego of the Marvel Comics character Vamp
Animus, the god-like Megazord from Power Rangers Wild Force
Animus, the main antagonist in the Manga Hoshi no Samidare

Games

Animus (Dungeons and Dragons), a human transformed into a powerful undead creature
Animus, a device in the Assassin's Creed series able to look deep into the memories of the user's ancestors
Animus, a name for a Human or Daedric soul in the The Elder Scrolls series
Animus elemental, a weapon in the Neverwinter Nights 2 video game
Animus Vitae, a substance in the Legendary video game

Law

Animus nocendi, an intent to do harm to another
Animus revertendi, "with intention to return", in connection with animals and property rights

DR :Confused:

[HawgZWylde]

The fact that racial bigotry exists is not surprising, but the fact that those afflicted are not thoroughly humiliated by their hateful views and are so belligerent about openly expressing their ignorance is very depressing.
You disagree with a politician on policy grounds, I get it. But many of these posts are just knee-jerk expressions of racial animus.

If you just read this entire thread, it would be impossible to form an accurate opinion as many of the racist comments were deleted and all you see are the responses to those racist posts...

[HawgZWylde]

Obama taught me how to use the force:
http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2009/09/Barack-Obama-Light-Saber.jpg

Excuse my ignorance, but what is "Chicago 2016". Is Rahm just keeping the seat warm?

[HawgZWylde]

DockRat!

You've been censored.

:-(

I was making a collage out of all those pics.

Indeed he was. Damn, those photo-shopped pics were hot...

[cutbait]

If you just read this entire thread, it would be impossible to form an accurate opinion as many of the racist comments were deleted and all you see are the responses to those racist posts...

LMAO.. I just went back and checked.. I wonder if PMB or a mod deleted the posts?

[evosamurai]

Indeed he was. Damn, those photo-shopped pics were hot...

how so??? all the pics are there still

[HawgZWylde]

LMAO.. I just went back and checked.. I wonder if PMB or a mod deleted the posts?

Lol, looks like the mod did. The profile is no longer in the members list either...

[HawgZWylde]

how so??? all the pics are there still


I'm not sure you if saw DR's other post that had several hot shots of her. Including a face shot of her as a Wasilla beauty queen. Someone came on and posted a dissenting opinion. They're gone now. Some of the other pics remain though...

[seal]

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/mc77pm/animus.jpg
Animus http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/Cooper-Kid/Avatars/WarioConfused.gif :Confused:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Look up animus in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.

Animus may refer to:
Contents

1 Psychology
2 Music
3 Fiction
4 Games
5 Law
6 Other
7 See also

Psychology

Anima and animus, Jungian concepts
The ancient Roman concept of animus or soul
Music

Animus (American ensemble), a Philadelphia, PA based Eastern Mediterranean World Fusion music group
"Animus", a track on the album Music of the Spheres by Mike Oldfield
"Animus", a bonus track on the album A New Era of Corruption by Whitechapel
"Animus", a track on the album Soundtracks for the Blind by Swans
"Animus Vox" a track on the album Drink the Sea by The Glitch Mob
Anima Animus, 1999 album by The Creatures

Fiction

Animus (Doctor Who), a character from the Doctor Who serial The Web Planet
Animus (Encantadia), a fictional character in Etheria
Animus (Marvel Comics), a character in the Marvel Universe
Animus, the alter-ego of the Marvel Comics character Vamp
Animus, the god-like Megazord from Power Rangers Wild Force
Animus, the main antagonist in the Manga Hoshi no Samidare

Games

Animus (Dungeons and Dragons), a human transformed into a powerful undead creature
Animus, a device in the Assassin's Creed series able to look deep into the memories of the user's ancestors
Animus, a name for a Human or Daedric soul in the The Elder Scrolls series
Animus elemental, a weapon in the Neverwinter Nights 2 video game
Animus Vitae, a substance in the Legendary video game

Law

Animus nocendi, an intent to do harm to another
Animus revertendi, "with intention to return", in connection with animals and property rights

DR :Confused:

Thank you DR cause I had no idea what "animus" ment! But racial "animus" wow that's pretty darn impressive use of words, makes me feel kind of inadecquate or somehow just not as intelligent as others.

Makes me wish I would have spent most of my life in school learning words nobody uses instead of working.

[DockRat]

Thank you DR cause I had no idea what "animus" ment!

Makes me wish I would have spent most of my life in school learning words nobody uses instead of working.

Had to look it up, didn't know what it 'ment' too .
DR

[smokehound]

The fact that racial bigotry exists is not surprising, but the fact that those afflicted are not thoroughly humiliated by their hateful views and are so belligerent about openly expressing their ignorance is very depressing.
You disagree with a politician on policy grounds, I get it. But many of these posts are just knee-jerk expressions of racial animus. Nicely said. Attended an Al Sharpton lecture, did we?

I was here from the start of it, and the "bigotry" as you call it wasn't really that bad. My friend is african american, and he laughed his *** off at that bumper sticker.


Just using the term "race" is in itself segregation, as it defines a clear line between skin color and ethnic identity. Political Correctness can be bad, like anything in excess.

Why did the chicken cross the road? --it never did. it was afraid of coming off as racist :LOL:



Makes me wish I would have spent most of my life in school learning words nobody uses instead of working. Hahaha! Seriously!!

[seal]

Had to look it up, didn't know what it 'ment' too .
DR

Ok I guess I should have gone to school a little longer, SMARTASS!

[HawgZWylde]

President Obama's solar energy stimulus will help us end our dependence on fossil fuels, and is bringing a lot of jobs to this region. Personally, due to the solar energy program, a solar company (no, not Solyndra and the great majority of solar companies are doing fine) are in the process of buying my wife's land near Blythe for a lot of money. They will turn it into a solar energy production area.

Thank you President Obama.

Hmm, like this one lefty? I want my stinkin money back!!! How many more lefty? How much more money is going to be stolen from the American taxpayers by crooks like these. Geez, the proofs in the pudding, the mob is now the demorat party.

This article just came out today;

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/solar-company-bankrupt-despite-win-win-doe-loan/459621

I want my money and my government back from these stinkin thieves...

Well what do ya know, I was out and about on the internet and discovered yet another billion dollar "solar" boondoggle;

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/02/14/another_825_million_solar_loan

People better be going to jail over all this theft, no, people WILL be going to jail over this theft...

[Thisfool]

i just got to wonder wonder what he could have and would have gotten done had he not had the republicans openly trying to railroad him from day one. His administration may not have gotten hardly anything done but is that really his fault when republicans were gunning for him from the get go. These times are not the times to fight and have an agendea for either side our goverment has faild us on both sides.

[DarkShadow]

People better be going to jail over all this theft, no, people WILL be going to jail over this theft...

Exactly!

Give them the same treatment that the Halliburton people received when they mysteriously received a $7 billion contract (for which they were the only bidders) for the Iraq war.

And then hopefully we can also determine where the $27.2 billion in cash that was flown into Iraq almost a decade ago and inexplicably disappeared from the Halliburton loading docks less than 12 hours after it arrived went.

[cutbait]

i just got to wonder wonder what he could have and would have gotten done had he not had the republicans openly trying to railroad him from day one. His administration may not have gotten hardly anything done but is that really his fault when republicans were gunning for him from the get go. These times are not the times to fight and have an agendea for either side our goverment has faild us on both sides.

Hey, pay attention to the facts...

Obama had 2 years of super majority in both the house and senate from 2008 to 2010... check it

Your make believe story doesn't fly

[fishinarteest]

i just got to wonder wonder what he could have and would have gotten done had he not had the republicans openly trying to railroad him from day one. His administration may not have gotten hardly anything done but is that really his fault when republicans were gunning for him from the get go. These times are not the times to fight and have an agendea for either side our goverment has faild us on both sides.

Ya I agree, its no secret that republicans intended to make things harder on him. And did a pretty good job at it too. I didnt vote Obama but what your saying isn't any less true.

[fishinarteest]

Hey, pay attention to the facts...

Obama had 2 years of super majority in both the house and senate from 2008 to 2010... check it

Your make believe story doesn't fly


Geez cutbait he was just stating his opinion. No need to be so hostile lol.

[cutbait]

Geez cutbait he was just stating his opinion. No need to be so hostile lol.

Not hostile.. just don't like seeing people actually believe Dems had anyone stopping them from ANYTHING they wanted to do legislatively from 2009-2011...

My dates were wrong earlier because I was thinking in terms of election years not the actual years the Dems held the super majority which the GOP could do nothing during that time

[Thisfool]

Hey, pay attention to the facts...

Obama had 2 years of super majority in both the house and senate from 2008 to 2010... check it

Your make believe story doesn't fly

yea and he had to spend the majority of that time waiting for Bushes policy's and legislation to end for about a year the presidents hands were tied as far as what he could or couldn't try to do so in reality he only had ONE year to try and do anything , and with your own statement you just agreed to the fact that the republicans spent the second two years fighting him and railroading him instead of trying to fix anything.

and even with majority he would still need a 2/3 vote to pass anything and even with majority on his side its still hard to do anything when the other 1/3 is screaming make him a one term president before he could even get inaugurated

do i think Obama was or is great? No. do i think he made some major mistakes? Yes. but on the same token what other president has ever had this much openly blatant resistant from members of congress

[cutbait]

yea and he had to spend the majority of that time waiting for Bushes policy's and legislation to end for about a year the presidents hands were tied as far as what he could or couldn't try to do so in reality he only had ONE year to try and do anything , and with your own statement you just agreed to the fact that the republicans spent the second two years fighting him and railroading him instead of trying to fix anything.

and even with majority he would still need a 2/3 vote to pass anything and even with majority on his side its still hard to do anything when the other 1/3 is screaming make him a one term president before he could even get inaugurated

Ah Bush's fault!!! I see now

[HawgZWylde]

Ah Bush's fault!!! I see now

Lol,you notice how they came back with rhetoric, and no facts pertaining to what I posted. No factual argument whatsoever. Hell, at least I posted links...

[Thisfool]

Ah Bush's fault!!! I see now

lol yup he kinda is the one who started the mudslide but that's besides the point lol

but anyhow that's why you have your vote and i have my vote, but not like they matter as we seen in the bush elections you can win the election even if you lose the vote lol. also dosent hurt to have your brother rig his state election in your favor lol

[Thisfool]

Lol,you notice how they came back with rhetoric, and no facts pertaining to what I posted. No factual argument whatsoever. Hell, at least I posted links...

lol hawgz i think you missed the part where he was being condescending towards me lol

[cutbait]

lol yup he kinda is the one who started the mudslide but that's besides the point lol

but anyhow that's why you have your vote and i have my vote, but not like they matter as we seen in the bush elections you can win the election even if you lose the vote lol. also dosent hurt to have your brother rig his state election in your favor lol



Good lord


FACTS!!!!

Whats wrong with you lefties??

Bageezus??? :Rolls Eyes:

[cutbait]

Bush had 537 more votes

Nobody stole anything

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2000&off=0&elect=0&fips=12&f=0

[cutbait]

lol hawgz i think you missed the part where he was being condescending towards me lol

I was because what you say has no basis in facts..

[HawgZWylde]

i just got to wonder wonder what he could have and would have gotten done had he not had the republicans openly trying to railroad him from day one. His administration may not have gotten hardly anything done but is that really his fault when republicans were gunning for him from the get go. These times are not the times to fight and have an agendea for either side our goverment has faild us on both sides.

He has spent more money than ALL past administrations combined, including GWB. That was in 2 years. If he would have had a super majority the entire time, that amount would be much much higher. Your children and grandchildren will be thanking them for stopping his far left agenda.

But let me ask you this, what were your expectations of him? What did you want him to do? How did the republicans stop him, and what did they stop him from doing?

And exactly what did the democrat controlled congress stop Bush from doing? I remember, do you?

[Thisfool]

Bush had 537 more votes

Nobody stole anything

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2000&off=0&elect=0&fips=12&f=0

ok i googled bush election popular vote

first link has gore wining by 543895

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0876793.html

link two gore wining by 543895

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000

link four cuz link three was talking about florida has gore wining by 543895

http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2000/prespop.htm

link 5 has gore wining by 543895

http://americanhistory.about.com/od/elections/p/election2000.htm


how is that for some facts i could keep going with links for you but i dont see a need. bush lost but due to loopholes and a system that was set up back when illiteracy was the norm bush won.

[Thisfool]

He has spent more money than ALL past administrations combined, including GWB. That was in 2 years. If he would have had a super majority the entire time, that amount would be much much higher. Your children and grandchildren will be thanking them for stopping his far left agenda.

But let me ask you this, what were your expectations of him? What did you want him to do? How did the republicans stop him, and what did they stop him from doing?

And exactly what did the democrat controlled congress stop Bush from doing? I remember, do you?


lol "all the past administrations combined" wow thats alot

[HawgZWylde]

lol yup he kinda is the one who started the mudslide but that's besides the point lol

but anyhow that's why you have your vote and i have my vote, but not like they matter as we seen in the bush elections you can win the election even if you lose the vote lol. also dosent hurt to have your brother rig his state election in your favor lol

You don't understand the electoral college system do you. Ya, I love remembering watching those idiots holding those voting cards up in the air and looking at those hanging chads trying to "determine" what the voter had in mind. It was Gore who took the whole mess to the Supreme court, and thankfully lost. An international embarrassment it was, indeed. Now that the world knows what a fraud that idiot is, I can only imagine what damage he would have inflicted on our nation.

Please tell me about this mudslide Bush caused. I suppose in your mind, he caused hurricanes Rita and Katrina as well huh?

[evosamurai]

on a side note im trying these

http://www.thebrewsite.com/received-shock-top-wheat-ipa/

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/feaststl.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/6/a5/6a57d128-7366-11e1-a99a-001a4bcf6878/4f69ecd9cf6c7.image.jpg

good stuff

[HawgZWylde]

Exactly!

Give them the same treatment that the Halliburton people received when they mysteriously received a $7 billion contract (for which they were the only bidders) for the Iraq war.

And then hopefully we can also determine where the $27.2 billion in cash that was flown into Iraq almost a decade ago and inexplicably disappeared from the Halliburton loading docks less than 12 hours after it arrived went.

And were there other bidders capable of completing said contract? And if so, what were the bid particulars that led them to not to be able to submit a bid?

$27.2 billion disappears off a Halliburton dock? Link please...

[HawgZWylde]

on a side note im trying these

http://www.thebrewsite.com/received-shock-top-wheat-ipa/

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/feaststl.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/6/a5/6a57d128-7366-11e1-a99a-001a4bcf6878/4f69ecd9cf6c7.image.jpg

good stuff

Lol, you're killing me man. I wish I could still drink. I had to quite drinking alcohol 20 years ago due to extreme GIRD. Especially beer due to the yeast that's in it. Oh do I miss having a frigging cold one or 3, or...

[DockRat]

So much for ' Kind Words ' thread. Lol
We need PMB back, come on buddy.
Figured a ex military guy wouldn't run away. http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp177/scrappinkym/Smiley%20Emoticons/scared-1.gif
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You don't understand the electoral college system do you. Good clean slam HZW.http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn53/Shady_Fanatic/TitoOrtiz.gif

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[Thisfool]

You don't understand the electoral college system do you. Ya, I love remembering watching those idiots holding those voting cards up in the air and looking at those hanging chads trying to "determine" what the voter had in mind. It was Gore who took the whole mess to the Supreme court, and thankfully lost. An international embarrassment it was, indeed. Now that the world knows what a fraud that idiot is, I can only imagine what damage he would have inflicted on our nation.

Please tell me about this mudslide Bush caused. I suppose in your mind, he caused hurricanes Rita and Katrina as well huh?

i know exactly how the electoral college system works and why it was put into use in the first place. but my point was that the general population the majority did not want bush as president.

I bet you would be screaming and pissed if the results were flipped what if bush one the popular vote and gore took the electoral college and became president i bet you wouldn't think its right or at least make you wonder what your vote really is worth.

the mudslide im referring to is the the national unemployment rate which was 4.2 when bush took office 5.8 when he turned it over and that 5.8 is the avrage for the year and from july of 2008 to to the end of the year the monthly avrage was all over 6.0 and in December it had reached 7.1

so if that isnt worthy of being called a mudslide i dont know what is. the unemployment rate was on the way up and up fast before Obama took over

as it is right now the rate is 8.7 which is only 1.6 higher then what Obama took over at compared to the 2.9 that bush let it slip.

[evosamurai]

Lol, you're killing me man. I wish I could still drink. I had to quite drinking alcohol 20 years ago due to extreme GIRD. Especially beer due to the yeast that's in it. Oh do I miss having a frigging cold one or 3, or...

what is GIRD sorry i have not heard that before...

[HawgZWylde]

what is GIRD sorry i have not heard that before...

Gastro Intestinal Reflex Disease. Or really really bad heartburn on a daily basis without medication...

[cutbait]

Hawgz... we need to fish and stratagery about our fellow fisherman and who listen to waaayyy too much NPR

[DockRat]

This 2012 Election is going to get expensive.
We already know the Prez like to spend money. :Rolls Eyes:

Obama Outspends Republican Campaigns by Millions

Thursday, 29 Mar 2012 06:05 AM

With Republicans locked in a contentious and expensive primary, President Barack Obama has spent a small fortune to build and maintain a campaign operation that's larger, more diverse and more focused on the general election than any of his opponents' organizations.

Republican contenders like Mitt Romney have had to watch their expenses during the primary campaign.

But Obama faces no serious challenger for the Democratic nomination. He has sunk his cash into an expansive brick-and-mortar operation with offices in nearly every state.

An Associated Press analysis of Federal Election Commission records shows that Obama's campaign has spent more than $135 million on operations through February. That's about $3 million more than all his GOP challengers combined.

Obama's paid staff exceeds 500, and many work in the campaign's Chicago headquarters.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/ObamasSizableCampaign/2012/03/29/id/434172 http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm34/Ragnor144/Political%20Macros/Obama/ObamaMoney.gif


what is GIRD sorry i have not heard that before...

Got me too. GIRD ?
Gastric Intestinal Reaction Disease ? :Beer Toast:
DR

[HawgZWylde]

i know exactly how the electoral college system works and why it was put into use in the first place. but my point was that the general population the majority did not want bush as president.

I bet you would be screaming and pissed if the results were flipped what if bush one the popular vote and gore took the electoral college and became president i bet you wouldn't think its right or at least make you wonder what your vote really is worth.

the mudslide im referring to is the the national unemployment rate which was 4.2 when bush took office 5.8 when he turned it over and that 5.8 is the avrage for the year and from july of 2008 to to the end of the year the monthly avrage was all over 6.0 and in December it had reached 7.1

so if that isnt worthy of being called a mudslide i dont know what is. the unemployment rate was on the way up and up fast before Obama took over

as it is right now the rate is 8.7 which is only 1.6 higher then what Obama took over at compared to the 2.9 that bush let it slip.

Remember the day...

January 3rd, 2007 was the day the democrats took over the House and Senate, or congress if you will.
At the time;

the DOW Jones closed @ 12,621.77
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
The unemployment rate was4.6%
George Bush's economic policies SET A RECORD OF 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS OF JOB CREATION!!

Remember the day...

January 3rd, 2007 was the day Bawney Fwank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee. The economic meltdown happened 15 months later in what part of the economy?

BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!!!

Thank you demorats for taking us from a nearly 13,000 DOW, a 3.5% GDP, and a 4.6% unemployment rate to this crisis by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION $$$ of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac! And BTW, Bush asked congress no less than 17 times to stop Fannie and Freddie, one of many speeches including McCain's, are on you tube, because it was financially risky for the US economy. Gee, ya think?

And who took the 3rd highest payoff from Fannie and Freddie?

OBAMA!!

And who fought reforming Fannie and Freddie?

Hypocrite in chief OBAMA!!

So when a progressive lib tries to blame Bush AND repubs...

REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007, the day the SOCIALISTS took over congress.

Explain to me how Bush "let it slip"???? The average unemployment % during the Bush years was right around 5%. It did not hit 7% until just shy of 2 months prior to the Obama administration taking over, and 2 full years AFTER the democrats took over congress. You say the % is 8.7%? I digress, it depends on who you are getting your information from. The real national unemployment % is actually around 12-15%, not counting the under-employed, and those who have multiple meaningless jobs to make ends meet. Obama said it would not exceed 8%, what happened?

With a national voter ID law in place, Gore never would have come as close as he did. Thankfully he lost in spite of all the voter irregularities...

[fishinarteest]

screw it lets just all vote republican this year, there the only ones who ever know how to do anything right these days. Lets just get rid of dems, all there good for is saving my tree, and my gay neighbor.

[HawgZWylde]

Hawgz... we need to fish and stratagery about our fellow fisherman and who listen to waaayyy too much NPR

Anytime cutbait. It would be a pleasure.

NPR, our public indoctrination, er, education system, universities, MSM, entertainment industry, tv. It's all saturated with social engineering tactics by the left...