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smokehound
11-13-2011, 02:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivy01BjrqkM&feature=related

That was pretty badass.

Nessie Hunter
11-13-2011, 07:39 AM
Not sure I would post a video (with face identification) and confession of a crime on a public forum??????

Might want to rethink this?????

DockRat
11-13-2011, 08:02 AM
Not sure I would post a video (with face identification) and confession of a crime on a public forum??????
Might want to rethink this?????
Cool video.
Youtube has tons of illegal stuff on tape. That guy could be in Montana or anywhere.
You don't need a address for a Youtube account.
DR

Nessie Hunter
11-13-2011, 09:07 AM
Its very easy to track and locate any IP address... Right to your door in "Anaheim"....

Be afraid, be very afraid... Big brother does watch these forums!!!!

whopperstopper
11-13-2011, 09:42 AM
There almost to big to use at Dvl now...maybe the next batch.....lol

TUNAVIC
11-13-2011, 10:20 AM
Pretty cool video,I thought trout would be alot harder to keep in an aquarium,what do you do in the summer to keep the water cold?

tpfishnfool
11-13-2011, 10:31 AM
Not sure I would post a video (with face identification) and confession of a crime on a public forum??????

Might want to rethink this?????

'''Child Please'''

smokehound
11-13-2011, 01:27 PM
Its very easy to track and locate any IP address... Right to your door in "Anaheim"....

Be afraid, be very afraid... Big brother does watch these forums!!!!Lol, that's not me. That's someone else. Other states actually allow keeping native fish as pets.

DockRat
11-13-2011, 06:01 PM
Pretty cool video, I thought trout would be alot harder to keep in an aquarium,what do you do in the summer to keep the water cold?

Some fish markets, restaurants with lobster and other fish use chillers.
Depends on what climate you live in.

I doubt Ca DFG would waste there time tracking someone with a couple Trout or Bass.
If you had something invasive that cause damage to a local lake like Pike or
Alligator Gar, Quagga Mussels ect they might investigate. California already has hundreds of invasive species
http://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/unitedstates/ca.shtml

Google search ' keeping trout in a aquarium california '
To be legal you might need a permit. Doesn't Cabelas have trout and bass.
Maybe they need to be purchased from a farm ?
Other website chat.

You'll need a chiller, and a 'double pane' aquarium so that condensation doesn't keep you from viewing the fish. Also maybe a permit to keep game fish in an aquarium, depending on where you live. Lots of cold water flow, good filtration, and O2 required.

Another dude wrote.
I keep Golden trout.
They are the most beautiful of all the trout and the native CA fish.
the little Kern River Goldens are endangered. Volcano Creek Goldens are incredibly beautiful. Tasty too. My fav fish and my most sought after on camping trips in the Sierras.

You need a chiller, 58F is good and high O2 and huge tank.
MBA might do a display on them next year, I'm trying to get them to try them out as they like natives.

You can see them for sale in some upscale fish markets, great taste.

Some chick wrote;
I have some second hand experience with keeping trout inside. When my husband and I were in grad school, he was in charge of a "living stream" set up in a research lab. All I can say is those fish got more attention than I did! Between the temp, current and keeping infection down, it was a lot of work. On top of all that, the stream kept crashing--he had a terrible time getting the bacteria to seed and properly cycle the tank.


http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/fish/29133-possible-keep-rainbow-trout-home-aquarium.html

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums/f12/possible-to-keep-rainbow-trout-in-home-aquarium-73362-2.html

TUNAVIC
11-14-2011, 10:38 AM
Yeah I figured on the chiller,its not the kind of fish I would want to keep and raise,I was just wondering how he was doing it,I'm happy with my parrot fish and african cichlids ect,Koi and catfish,thats enough!

Flying
11-14-2011, 11:21 AM
Yeah I figured on the chiller,its not the kind of fish I would want to keep and raise,I was just wondering how he was doing it,I'm happy with my parrot fish and african cichlids ect,Koi and catfish,thats enough!

If you click the title in the video it will send you to the you tube site where you can read all the comments which he explains all the details.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ivy01BjrqkM

There was no chiller involved. He transferred water from the tank and refrigerator a gallon at a time to maintain temperature. I'm sure he wasn't living in a southern state using this method. He also ate each fish after they died.

LGHT
11-14-2011, 11:26 AM
You don't need a chiller to keep trout if your in So Cal. The water temps in a good sized tank of 180 or bigger will never get over 70 and the trout will simply adapt the temp changes and be fine. I've breed several different type of fish and most wild fish are hardy enough to survive without any problems.

Anyone want to buy a nice 180 gallon "bait" tank just let me know!

smokehound
11-14-2011, 12:49 PM
You don't need a chiller to keep trout if your in So Cal. The water temps in a good sized tank of 180 or bigger will never get over 70 and the trout will simply adapt the temp changes and be fine. I've breed several different type of fish and most wild fish are hardy enough to survive without any problems.

Anyone want to buy a nice 180 gallon "bait" tank just let me know!I'm sorry but that's simply not true.

LGHT
11-14-2011, 01:20 PM
I'm sorry but that's simply not true.

Of course it is I wouldn't say it wasn't if it wasn't. Rainbows can tolerate water between 55-65 degress and my current 180 gallon tank doesn't get any hotter than 67 ever. Even in the summer even if I keep all the windows closed etc etc. So I'll say it again you don't NEED a chiller to keep trout in a home tank. Would it help yes, but it's no absolutely necessary by any means.

LGHT
11-14-2011, 01:28 PM
Here are a few links taken from various websites such as hatcheries, biologist, and general information regarding maximum temps for rainbow trout.

http://www.valleyfishing.com/temperature.htm

http://members.fortunecity.com/fotca/rainbowtrout.htm

http://www3.northern.edu/natsource/FISH/Rainbo1.htm

http://www.fao.org/fishery/culturedspecies/Oncorhynchus_mykiss/en

smokehound
11-14-2011, 02:06 PM
Here are a few links taken from various websites such as hatcheries, biologist, and general information regarding maximum temps for rainbow trout.

http://www.valleyfishing.com/temperature.htm

http://members.fortunecity.com/fotca/rainbowtrout.htm

http://www3.northern.edu/natsource/FISH/Rainbo1.htm

http://www.fao.org/fishery/culturedspecies/Oncorhynchus_mykiss/en Even in a larger tank, at the height of summer, it will become unsuitable. Even though the upper limit is 78-79 degrees f, this is stressful, and optimal health will only come with water around 50 degrees f. If you want your trout to live long, past a year, you definitely need a chiller.

But then again, keep in mind I'm talking about keeping trout long-term. The colder the water, the higher the amount of dissolved oxygen. In warmer water, trout begin to develop fungal infections.

And The biggest hurtle to keeping Rainbow trout arises from maintaining the temperature at a constant level, quick fluctuations as small as 2-3 degrees can be fatal.

LGHT
11-14-2011, 03:22 PM
ahh I get it now your in Anaheim where it gets pretty hot. I'm down in Newport so the temps in my area are a lot colder and my tanks never exceed 70 even in the summer especially since I also have my AC set for 70. It's all about creating a controlled environment where the tank is kept and you won't need a chiller.

As far as the oxegen as long as you have at least 5-6 ppm rainbows will be fine. For some exotic fish like RBP's I simply add a power head that boost oxegen levels. I only have to do this when I have a breeding pair and I turn the heat up on them to around 85. Again i'm just controlling their environment.

Fungal infections are not caused by water temps as much as water quality so that would be a non issue if your water was good.

Again if you have a large enough tank inside your home in a controlled environment you won't ever see a few degress of temperture change. However if you have your tank in the garage and it's 90 outside your in for problems.

Like I said I would say you don't need a chiller if you need one and i'm willing to bet $1k I can keep a trout alive for more than a year without a chiller to prove it..

DockRat
11-14-2011, 05:01 PM
Like I said I would say you don't need a chiller if you need one and i'm willing to bet $1k I can keep a trout alive for more than a year without a chiller to prove it..

You said your running AC so basically your paying to chill the air in your house.
That is your chiller.

No AC at my house, no heater either for 8 years. If it gets in the forties then we use
1 or 2 electric radiator heaters to get it back up to the fifties at night.
Original single pane windows. 1950's oak floors, no floor insulation.
Down in Brawley the law is you must provide a heater for tenants but AC
is not required by law (even though it is over 100 degrees 6 months of the year)
Go figure :Confused:
DR http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/LadyFire/Toy%20Box%20Items/igloo1.gif

smokehound
11-14-2011, 05:18 PM
ahh I get it now your in Anaheim where it gets pretty hot. I'm down in Newport so the temps in my area are a lot colder and my tanks never exceed 70 even in the summer especially since I also have my AC set for 70. It's all about creating a controlled environment where the tank is kept and you won't need a chiller.

As far as the oxegen as long as you have at least 5-6 ppm rainbows will be fine. For some exotic fish like RBP's I simply add a power head that boost oxegen levels. I only have to do this when I have a breeding pair and I turn the heat up on them to around 85. Again i'm just controlling their environment.

Fungal infections are not caused by water temps as much as water quality so that would be a non issue if your water was good.

Again if you have a large enough tank inside your home in a controlled environment you won't ever see a few degress of temperture change. However if you have your tank in the garage and it's 90 outside your in for problems.

Like I said I would say you don't need a chiller if you need one and i'm willing to bet $1k I can keep a trout alive for more than a year without a chiller to prove it.......RBP, that wouldn't happen to be Red-belly Piranha, would it? I thought those were illegal to own in california. o_O Unless you Meant Red-bellied Pacu.

CALIFORNIA:

Prohibited fish species -- illegal to import, transport, or possess live specimens w/o a permit

(4) Class Agnatha - Jawless Fishes

(A) Family Petromyzontidae - Lampreys All nonnative species (D).

(5) Class Osteichthyes - Bony Fishes

(A) Family Percichthyidae - Temperate Basses

1. The species Morone americana (White perch) (D).

2. The species Morone chrysops (White bass) (D).

(B ) Family Clupeidae - Herrings Dorosoma cepedianum (Gizzard shad) (D).

(C ) Family Sciaenidae - Drums Aplodinotus grunniens (freshwater drum) (D).

(D) Family Characidae - Characins

1. Astyanax fasciatus (Banded tetra) (D).

2. All species of the genera Serrasalmus, Serrasalmo, Pygocentrus, Taddyella, Rooseveltiella, and Pygopristis (Piranhas) (D).

3. Hoplias malabaricus (Tiger fish) (D).

(E) Family Salmonidae - Trouts Salmo salar (Atlantic salmon) - Restricted in the Smith River watershed (D).

(F) Family Lepisosteidae - Gars All species (D).

(G) Family Amiidae - Bowfins All species (D).

(H) Family Poeciliidae - Livebearers Belonesox belizanus (Pike killifish) (D).

(I) Family Channidae - Snakeheads All species (D).

(J) Family Cyprinidae - Carps and Minnows

1. Leuciscus idus (ide) (D).

2. Ctenopharyngodon idellus (Grass carp) (D), except that permits may be issued to a person, organization or agency for possession of triploid grass carp, under conditions set forth in Section 238.6.

3. Hypophthalmichthys molitrix (Silver carp) (D).

4. Aristichthys nobilis (Bighead carp) (D).

(K) Family Trichomycteridae (Pygidiidae) - Parasitic Catfishes. All species (D).

(L) Family Cetopsidae - Whalelike Catfishes. All species (D).

(M) Family Clariidae - Labyrinth Catfishes All species of the genera Clarias, Dinotopterus, and Heterobranchus (D).

(N) Family Heteropneustidae (Saccobranchidae) - Airsac Catfishes All species (D).

(O) Family Cichlidae - Cichlids

1. Tilapia sparrmani (Banded Tilapia) (D).

2. Tilapia zilli (Redbelly tilapia) (D), except permits may be issued to a person or agency for importation, transportation, or possession in the counties of San Bernardino, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Diego, and Imperial.

3. Tilapia aurea (Blue tilapia) (D).

4. Tilapia nilotica (Nile tilapia) (D).

(P) Family Anguillidae - Freshwater Eels. All species of genus Anguilla (D).

(Q) Family Esocidae - Pikes all species (D).

(R ) Family Percidae - Perches

1. Perca flavescens (Yellow perch) (D).

2. Stizostedion vitreum (Walleye) (D).

(S) Family Catostomidae - Suckers All members of the genus Ictiobus (Buffalos) (D).

(T) Family Cyprinodontidae - Killifishes Cyprinodon variegatus (Sheepshead minnow) (D).

(6) Class Elasmobranchiomorphi - Cartilaginous Fishes

(A) Family Carcharhinidae - Requiem Sharks All species of genus Carcharhinus (Freshwater sharks) (D).

(B ) Family Potamotrygonidae - River stingrays All species (D).

bowler
11-14-2011, 05:30 PM
Try feeding the trout some small goldfish. Me and a friend had a trout for a year before it jumped out of the tank and died. When the trout was alive we used to feed it small goldfish.

LGHT
11-14-2011, 05:51 PM
Try feeding the trout some small goldfish. Me and a friend had a trout for a year before it jumped out of the tank and died. When the trout was alive we used to feed it small goldfish.

hahah I love feeding my feeds goldfish until they got a taste for much larger prey like mice and hamsters.

smokehound
11-14-2011, 08:07 PM
hahah I love feeding my feeds goldfish until they got a taste for much larger prey like mice and hamsters.You really shouldn't be feeding your fish goldfish or rodents, it's a poor source of nutrition....

...But then again, as I said earlier, I think about keeping fish long-term, and not for a few years until their early death =P

DockRat
11-14-2011, 08:49 PM
Big Pacu in this Video.
You would need a big tank and flow to bring into captivity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7w5rjj9tzo
DR

Hitts0n
03-19-2012, 10:59 PM
Chum Leg.....

unreal toad
03-20-2012, 09:15 AM
Do you take them out for a walk in the afternoon ?