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TheAsianGuy
10-01-2011, 08:27 PM
Air temp: 62°F from 6 to 7am. 73°F from 7 to 8. 84 to 89° the rest of the day (left at 4pm). Freaking humid!

Water temp: 74°F at surface down to 3 feet from 6 to 9am. 78 to 81°F down to 2 feet from 9am to 4pm. Warm!

Water level receded another 3ft, showing quite a bit of the tules roots.

Fishes depth: between 4ft to 10ft from 6 to 10am. 6ft to 27ft from 10am to 4pm.

Once that sunlight hits, a great majority of the fish went to the deeper depths. 6:10am, unloaded at Parking lots 11-12 ramp, joined by a possible FNNer with a Silver FishCat (brand new..shiny!) I barely throw my line into the water with the Senkoswim watermelon so I can get my Rapala X ready on the second line. less than 3 seconds, that line got slammed by a 2-lbers. Dang! Not even 10 feet from shore. The FishCat tuber tossed a BassPro frog on 2nd cast into the tules, and SLAM! Missed during hook set. Pretty big from the bendo he received. Loaded my 2nd line, and barely tossed it in, both lines got slammed. Another 2lbs/3lbs(or may the same one) slammed my Rapala X purple, and a 3/4-lb crappie snagged my senko. BOIL! ~150ft off the ramp. Time to chase. Switched senko over to YoZuri Tennessee. Both lines slammed, and I'm being pulled into the tules. Rods were nearly doing a U. I lighten the drag, and those who took off into the weeds. Took nearly 20 minutes of fight, and landed a bass the size of my leg. Uncertain of the weight. While hauling the pig out, my other rod was creaking. I'm not about to have another broken rod here. Toss the fish on the back of my toon, and give chase to the other one. Got slapped constantly while chasing the other one. Out of the water, the same one got my beanie was a freaking carp! Estimated to be 5lbs. 40 minutes in, two fishes on the boat. Both lines were temporarily tossed over on the side, so I can take photo ops. AGAIN! Dang it! Rods went bendo, and got dragged into the water. Fishes, or rods? RODS! Grabbed the rods, fishes went overboard! :mad:

Time to chase those pigs. Can't find them by 9:30am, so, went to the island southeast side. Can't believe how much salad there is. My lines get snagged like crazy. Once pass the shallow area, and directly behind the island, 25 to 30ft depth, the fish finder lit up. Schools after schools of large fishes. Switched to macks and anchovies, sandwiched with marshmallows. Senko on the other rod. 5 minutes at 20ft depth, major bendo on the stink line. 10 minutes fight, and second snag. Drags were screaming. Boaters were yelling, "Go! Go! Get them!" Do you see I have four arms? 15 minutes fight, 7lbs bass and a 9lbs cat. Stringer time. 10am to 2pm, total 7 basses more than 5lbs, 10 basses at 2lbs or less. 3 cats, 1 carp.

Lesson learned: Never, ever take photos on a tube/toon with that many aggressive fighters on your stringer until you get to shore. Nearly loss my phone that I use as a camera when the basses decide to do an escape act. If you guys find a blue stringer with a whole bunch of fishes on it, you found my fishing day :Sad:

bakchow
10-01-2011, 10:20 PM
Great job out there! Water is still going down huh? How much did it go down from last Tuesday do you think?

Perris Bluegill Chaser
10-01-2011, 10:59 PM
I have been to perris many times, never no pics of a catfish.

Air temp: 62°F from 6 to 7am. 73°F from 7 to 8. 84 to 89° the rest of the day (left at 4pm). Freaking humid!

Water temp: 74°F at surface down to 3 feet from 6 to 9am. 78 to 81°F down to 2 feet from 9am to 4pm. Warm!
ules roots.

Fishes depth: between 4ft to 10ft from 6 to 10am. 6ft to 27ft from 10am to 4pm.

Once that sunlight hits, a great majority of the fish went to the deeper depths. 6:10am, unloaded at Parking lots 11-12 ramp, joined by a possible FNNer with a Silver FishCat (brand new..shiny!) I barely throw my line into the water with the Senkoswim watermelon so I can get my Rapala X ready on the second line. less than 3 seconds, that line got slammed by a 2-lbers. Dang! Not even 10 feet from shore. The FishCat tuber tossed a BassPro frog on 2nd cast into the tules, and SLAM! Missed during hook set. Pretty big from the bendo he received. Loaded my 2nd line, and barely tossed it in, both lines got slammed. Another 2lbs/3lbs(or may the same one) slammed my Rapala X purple, and a 3/4-lb crappie snagged my senko. BOIL! ~150ft off the ramp. Time to chase. Switched senko over to YoZuri Tennessee. Both lines slammed, and I'm being pulled into the tules. Rods were nearly doing a U. I lighten the drag, and those who took off into the weeds. Took nearly 20 minutes of fight, and landed a bass the size of my leg. Uncertain of the weight. While hauling the pig out, my other rod was creaking. I'm not about to have another broken rod here. Toss the fish on the back of my toon, and give chase to the other one. Got slapped constantly while chasing the other one. Out of the water, the same one got my beanie was a freaking carp! Estimated to be 5lbs. 40 minutes in, two fishes on the boat. Both lines were temporarily tossed over on the side, so I can take photo ops. AGAIN! Dang it! Rods went bendo, and got dragged into the water. Fishes, or rods? RODS! Grabbed the rods, fishes went overboard! :mad:

Time to chase those pigs. Can't find them by 9:30am, so, went to the island southeast side. Can't believe how much salad there is. My lines get snagged like crazy. Once pass the shallow area, and directly behind the island, 25 to 30ft depth, the fish finder lit up. Schools after schools of large fishes. Switched to macks and anchovies, sandwiched with marshmallows. Senko on the other rod. 5 minutes at 20ft depth, major bendo on the stink line. 10 minutes fight, and second snag. Drags were screaming. Boaters were yelling, "Go! Go! Get them!" Do you see I have four arms? 15 minutes fight, 7lbs bass and a 9lbs cat. Stringer time. 10am to 2pm, total 7 basses more than 5lbs, 10 basses at 2lbs or less. 3 cats, 1 carp.

Lesson learned: Never, ever take photos on a tube/toon with that many aggressive fighters on your stringer until you get to shore. Nearly loss my phone that I use as a camera when the basses decide to do an escape act. If you guys find a blue stringer with a whole bunch of fishes on it, you found my fishing day :Sad:

fishmounter
10-02-2011, 12:20 AM
You caught 7 bass and each one weighed more than 5 lbs each? Or you caught 7 bass that combined in weight was more than 5 lbs? How in the world do you lose a stringer full of fish? I sure hope you did not lose a stringer full of big bass... No pics? Not even one pic of a big bass? Sure you caught 17 bass and 7 of those were over 5 lbs.... something is fishy here...

fishmounter
10-02-2011, 12:25 AM
OK.. I just read your title of your post. You had a crappy day right? You got skunked. Your post was just a joke..

QB7940
10-02-2011, 04:15 AM
:Skunk::Skunk::Skunk: something smells.......

tree
10-02-2011, 04:34 AM
So umm, did you lose your stringer with the catfish on it?

what? how is this a craptastic day if you caught helllla fish!??!?!?!

Sublime-Steve
10-02-2011, 05:02 AM
So how many bass did you catch? and keep? just curious

headcase881
10-02-2011, 05:37 AM
im thinking he was refering to the crappy part being looseing the days catch and the tastic part was the days catch in general.....correct me if im wrong. i dont think any thing fishy i have been on that lake and slamed 22+ in a seven hour day so it could happen. congrats on the catch.....dont know what to say about the excapies other than it sound like there doomed. at least they are on the chew again i was there a couple weeks ago and only brought two in the tube.

HawgStalker
10-02-2011, 07:45 AM
If you really did catch that many large bass Im truly not sorry for ya..... Thats what you get for putting them on a stringer! The LMB Gods have spoken! Always practice CPR with big LMB.....:Big Grin:

Kelster
10-02-2011, 08:32 AM
I fished that end most of the year but have been on the other side for the past month or so. Bernasconi Beach was pretty quiet. There were 10 or so tubers and the bite was slow. Water 75 at 6:30 and 77 in the afternoon. My timing and mojo was finally off and only caught one small red ear and BG. Two guys I met out there earlier this year were still catching LMB's, these two really know that side of the lake.

TheAsianGuy
10-02-2011, 09:42 AM
Great job out there! Water is still going down huh? How much did it go down from last Tuesday do you think?

Not sure how high the water was on Tuesday. I go based on the measurement on my last outing to the lake, which was Monday. The Bernasconi side water level retreated around 4ft from the last marking that I went a week ago. The launch ramp area exposed all its shoreline rocks since Monday. I tend to visit the water body in advanced before fishing. I visited Silverwood and BBL on cases I working on. Couldn't make it to BBL, a tad too far of a drive for a nice day outing. Silverwood was definitely too windy to be on the toon.


I have been to perris many times, never no pics of a catfish.

I caught plenty of cats in that lake. Just have to hit the right spots. They congregate quite a bit at the south side of the island, and along the deeper part of the water towards the dam. I wish we could fish beyond the buoy line where the watercrafts go nut with their speeds. Speaking of which, do they understand that 5mph means 5pmh, and not 25? So many boats (with quite a few passengers per boat) zoomed by me at least 10mph. I stared them down and signal the "slow down" sign, but they just looked, smile, and sped off.


You caught 7 bass and each one weighed more than 5 lbs each? Or you caught 7 bass that combined in weight was more than 5 lbs? How in the world do you lose a stringer full of fish? I sure hope you did not lose a stringer full of big bass... No pics? Not even one pic of a big bass? Sure you caught 17 bass and 7 of those were over 5 lbs.... something is fishy here...

Jeff, yep. Plenty of the 2lbers littered the Lots 11&12. The fun begins at the south side of the island, east of the reef. Nothing near the 5mph buoy line. I didn't string the fishes through the gills and mouths. I modified a jaw holder, similar the one that used by the fish gripper sold at the fish store. Didn't damage them, while the spring tension is just enough to prevent them from breaking loose. The stringer was on the side of my toon. Tried to pull the stringer over to the front, yanked out the phone for a nice photo op, one of the basses decided, "Well..last chance to break loose, so, let's go!" One initiated the frenzy, the rest followed. They ripped that 15ft stringer line right out of my hand, and gave me a nice red rope burn. Wife heard me screaming during the fight on her phone as I told her I was about to head home. By the way, didn't want to keep them. Just want to show how many fishes I caught on one stringer that day. Would have kept the cats, but release the basses. Pretty hard to take a photo of a large fish using one hand, and barely any platform to shove the fishes on. The cooler was the only option I had for that first huge fish. But like I say, it was slapping like crazy while I was chasing the carp.

You can call it a skunk or a joke. But nope. Hope one of you find that stringer, and you'll see love I spend hauling those boys in. A few families on the island that were beaching-fishing, and a few boats anchored near there saw that I spent my entire afternoon there, struggling with the bouncing lines, with rods bent. And old couple witnessed a few of my catches, and kept saying, you need to go over there where he is. The fishes were biting like mad at the lower depths. Good luck guys.

TheAsianGuy
10-02-2011, 04:26 PM
Oh, nearly forgot. I think I saw Pete Morino's boat at Perris the same day. He was the first/second to check in. He was signing the paper when I waved and drove by. Guess he was too busy. I also saw the multiple points that he hit that day. I think I was in the same spots that he manage to land the pigs for his clients..YEAH BABY!!

fish-o-haulic
10-02-2011, 05:56 PM
dont think it was smart to post up that you kept bass. especially that many, im not a bass huger like some on this forum but that was alot of bass. You know better asianguy LOL. anyway sounds like a great day out there. See i can get over the fact that you attempted to keep bass and still acknowledge your good fishing skills. LOL

TheAsianGuy
10-02-2011, 06:26 PM
dont think it was smart to post up that you kept bass. especially that many, im not a bass huger like some on this forum but that was alot of bass. You know better asianguy LOL. anyway sounds like a great day out there. See i can get over the fact that you attempted to keep bass and still acknowledge your good fishing skills. LOL

:LOL: no..didn't want to keep the basses. Just the cats..ok..ok..guilty..maybe one smallest one that meet the keeping requirement for the missus since she missed the taste of bass before trout season hits :Embarrassed: Otherwise, all those huge basses on the stringer was meant to be released at the end of the day, just to show that I had a nice stringer of fishes, rather than photos of the similar fish, with every one called it BS. Just want to show that there are plenty of them basses still around for the fun at LP. They were monitored every 15 minutes to ensure proper vitality before releasing. The stringer was modified with blunt alligator clippers, to hold onto the fishes' jaws. It's like holding to their lower jaw with your fingers all day long. Spring tension was set to roughly 52psi, so, it mimics exactly like the thumb and index finger pinching the basses jaw. Spent $79 on raw materials to make that freaking 10 clippers. The cats were stringed through the mouth and gills. They still have plenty of fight in them after that long afternoon, and I was glad to release them after the photo op. But..like I said, either the fishes or my phone. I chose the phone, and a rope burn :Rolls Eyes: Wish FNNers were around. Could have a blast with them hauling those fishes in together. I finally found the hidden treasure spots of LP that Pete had been using...muahahahahaha. Sorry Pete!

Sublime-Steve
10-02-2011, 06:37 PM
The chances of those huge BASS living even if you did let them go from being on a stringer for who know's how long are slim to none. best to just take a pic n let it go im sure you notice most the BASS that are caught @ perris have sore's and what not in or on there mouth and that's just from catch and release. stringers are meant to take home.

TheAsianGuy
10-02-2011, 06:46 PM
The chances of those huge BASS living even if you did let them go from being on a stringer for who know's how long are slim to none. best to just take a pic n let it go im sure you notice most the BASS that are caught @ perris have sore's and what not in or on there mouth and that's just from catch and release. stringers are meant to take home.

True on the stringer if the string is place directly from mouth through gill. It took me a good year of research to create the modified clipper stringer to ensure their survival. I even tried the clippers on the trouts, which are much more sensitive to handling than basses. Those trouts were as strong and healthy as I first hauled them in. I even confirmed their vitality with a aqua-biologist/specialist. The was the one to introduced me to the idea in creating that crazy clipper. I'll make another one later when I get the parts, and show you guys. It may be a money making scheme for someone out there, but it's a great device for tubers that like to keep their catches fresh before hauling them home, after a quick kill before getting to/at the shore. But, if you don't believe me..well, can't convince you until you use one yourself..

fish-o-haulic
10-02-2011, 07:11 PM
The chances of those huge BASS living even if you did let them go from being on a stringer for who know's how long are slim to none. best to just take a pic n let it go im sure you notice most the BASS that are caught @ perris have sore's and what not in or on there mouth and that's just from catch and release. stringers are meant to take home.

Trust me if theres anyone who knows probably even the exact statistic that those fish have of surviving its asianguy. hes the most knowledgable person on our local fisheries and the fish in them on this board.

whopperstopper
10-02-2011, 08:53 PM
:Smack:Whatever, He just killed a bunch of bass and catfish...cause you couldnt get a leash for a camera around your neck....were you gonna bring them in and hold them over your head while the croud cheer's...lol....I wish you coulda post the pic's of that stringer on here

TheAsianGuy
10-02-2011, 09:01 PM
:Smack:Whatever, He just killed a bunch of bass and catfish...cause you couldnt get a leash for a camera around your neck....were you gonna bring them in and hold them over your head while the croud cheer's...lol....I wish you coulda post the pic's of that stringer on here

I did have a camera around my neck, and that $250 camera now ended up in the electronic recycling bin due to water damage..bend over..touched the water..bye bye camera..one pissed off wife since it was hers. Now, I'm using my own phone for camera purposes. Ask anyone in this forum that tubes and electronics don't mix.


Trust me if theres anyone who knows probably even the exact statistic that those fish have of surviving its asianguy. hes the most knowledgable person on our local fisheries and the fish in them on this board.

Thanks. Can't hog the glory to myself. I had quite a bit of teachers in this forums, and plenty of friends who are specialists in their fields. Thanks to them that I have knowledge and research paths to utilize. Without them, well, I'm just in the dark as much as you are.

bassgrabber1
10-02-2011, 10:20 PM
Believe it or not Asianguy's story is very believable. I went out in July with a friend and we hooked 7 fish over 5lbs in a matter of 20 minutes...trust me when I tell you that Perris has a ton of 5+lbsers in the lake. I have done Volunteer work with DFG and seen it for myself. Is it hard to believe that I caught my 2 PB's in a matter of about 2 months...one was 8lbs12oz and the other12lbs 8oz....Perris holds large fish. That being said, it takes skill to catch them and I have pics of my fish to prove it , I personally would not put a bass on a stringer because I dont intend to do anything but CPR them.....but AsianGuy hasnt done anything wrong in a legal point of view. Like anything though...a pic is worth a 1000 words. Just my $.02.

phishin phool
10-02-2011, 10:25 PM
:Rolls Eyes: Uhhhh OK?:ROFL: The same guy that told someone to fish Lake Matthews. And why someone would put bass on a stringer, or any fish you are going to realese make absolutely no sense to me. Not good for the fishies :Explode:
Trust me if theres anyone who knows probably even the exact statistic that those fish have of surviving its asianguy. hes the most knowledgable person on our local fisheries and the fish in them on this board.

Sublime-Steve
10-03-2011, 06:50 AM
Asianguy you need to get yourself a waterproof camera made by fuji. there not that expensive. and let's see this clip that keep's fish alive without any harm done post some pics!!

headcase881
10-03-2011, 07:19 AM
By all means he did do something wrong its called wasting the animal bass should never be on a string for c&r purposes there is a reson the pros use a live well. And your selfishness. Of wanting to take the pic killed the next 10 lb er. I have caught a crap load of bass this summer and not one pic from the tube oh well I know my fish swam away ALIVE. I am with u on tubes ,electroncis, and water don't mix I dropped my phone over on bersconie side but didn't put that 7 lber on a stringer for show and tell. In my opinion you show one hell of a lack of sportsman ship by gloating. About your doomed "C&R Stringer"

bassgrabber1
10-03-2011, 08:06 AM
By all means he did do something wrong its called wasting the animal bass should never be on a string for c&r purposes there is a reson the pros use a live well. And your selfishness. Of wanting to take the pic killed the next 10 lb er. I have caught a crap load of bass this summer and not one pic from the tube oh well I know my fish swam away ALIVE. I am with u on tube and water don't mix I dropped my phone over on bersconie side but didn't put that 7 lber on a stringer for show and tell. In my opinion you show one hell of a lack of sportsman ship by gloating. About your doomed C&R. Stringer


I meant that keeping bass that are of legal limit and size is ok but I really dont agree that putting them on a stringer for pic purposes is ok.

headcase881
10-03-2011, 08:12 AM
One hundred percent if u enjoy fish and have ur license. U are able to keep them but I don't feel they should be tugged around while u paddle trying to max your days catch for only a pic bass stress easily

Stormcrow
10-03-2011, 08:14 AM
This is bizarre....

lol

TheAsianGuy
10-03-2011, 09:14 AM
This is bizarre....

Agreed! :LOL:

Steve, thank for the heads up on the Fuji camera. Digital I hope. I have a waterproof pouch for the other digital, the pouch is more cumbersome than expected. It doesn't allow me to mount onto the camera rig for video action. I'll come up with something. As for the clipper, I'll definitely show a completed one as soon as I get to the hardware store and grab a few. Once done, I'll lend you one to test it out, and give me your best judgment. Like I said, you got to use one to believe.

headcase, trust me when I said it hurts me more to see that stringer still attached to the basses as they slipped away. I don't care much for the stringer setup itself, but all that prize fishes for the future fun that other could have..I don't gloat about that stringer, but rather, pissed off because I couldn't do anything about the fishes that are still attached to the stringer. The way I set up the stringer is not just some flimsy design. It's property spanned with proper interval to prevent such fatigue from occurring, while they glide in the water without efforts. Like I said, it took me a year of research and development to get the design down. Lost a few trouts along the way during their struggles and they got free. But, I also improved the spring tension to prevent that from happening now. 48 to 52psi is the key ticket. Oh..as for the live well, a tube is not a boat, and the cooler is definitely not large enough. The largest float mesh basket's openings are still too small..so..any idea?

bassgrabber1
10-03-2011, 09:14 AM
This is bizarre....

lol

:ROFL::Smash::No Pity::Dead Horse::Food: Yeah it got weird.....haha

headcase881
10-03-2011, 12:32 PM
understandable i dont have a clue of the setup ur talking about dont mean to give u a hard time im pretty sure u tried ur hardest to retrieve them i reread ur post a caught the part about searching for them till 930 like i said dont mean to raz u about it im just not into paradeing my catch around from what it sound like u did ur research and a apparatice of the quality ur talking about might give us tubbers a chance at some tournement style fishing

TheAsianGuy
10-03-2011, 01:01 PM
understandable i dont have a clue of the setup ur talking about dont mean to give u a hard time im pretty sure u tried ur hardest to retrieve them i reread ur post a caught the part about searching for them till 930 like i said dont mean to raz u about it im just not into paradeing my catch around from what it sound like u did ur research and a apparatice of the quality ur talking about might give us tubbers a chance at some tournement style fishing

Understandable. Because of the keepers requirement, such as trouts due to the 5 limit a day, I took great consideration for safely handling and retain them. This not only allow me to monitor their vitality before release, but also give me a chance to keep the good sizes, and release the breeders and the dinks. I kept them in the wire mesh basket, they tried to escape, and get themselves hurt as they bang against the mesh. That's why I come up with this method of holding. I'll keep the tournament events for tubers in mind during my modification so you guys will have a chance to hold onto your prize catches for show-and-tell. The clippers mellow the fishes out because of their jaws are slightly opened in a lock-jaw method. The water still flows through their mouths, and the gills are actively introducing oxygen to their vital organs. Like I said, 1 year of research. Hope this will turn the tide for tubers for tournament level fishing. Only time will tell?

smokehound
10-03-2011, 01:44 PM
....Why the stringer? Just lip the bass, shoot a pic, and release. It takes five seconds.

white belt
10-03-2011, 01:53 PM
....Why the stringer? Just lip the bass, shoot a pic, and release. It takes five seconds.

That's what I was thinking. Maybe it's the fumbling with electronics while in a tube? I don't know... IMO if you can't get the pic you can't get the pic. Regardless of how safe and tested this stringer is. BTW even if the stringer is safe, it's still very stressing for a fish to get dragged around by the mouth for hours. It's probably trying to escape furiously for the most part, and that can't be good on the fish.

Perris sounds like a great time though. Might have to try it out some day.

TheAsianGuy
10-03-2011, 02:14 PM
....Why the stringer? Just lip the bass, shoot a pic, and release. It takes five seconds.

Ever tube and handle a pig in you tube, while maintaining stability with your legs and handle the fight one handed? Not happening. The tube has a little mesh tray for usage, you can manage to calm the fish down enough. Toon wise..what tray? Bag to the right (hooks, baits, etc.), bag to the left (fish finder with batteries), your lap is used by body to balance on feet rests, forming a V-pattern. Fish on lap is suicide to your gonads and little willie. Platform on the back is perfect, but plenty of storage equipment on back (cooler, PFD, clothes, and other gears)..then constant fishes hitting the lines while keeping toon lined up with the lines to prevent the rod from snapping with one hand, as you handle the rod and reeling in the other. On top of that, your legs are way too high to use fins for kicking to stabilize. Total chaos. Quickest response is, pull the fish to stringer, take clip on stringer, attach to fish to clip, remove hook quickly, put rod into holder in forward position, slack the line immediate for possible hit from the same school, focus on 2nd rod with catch to prevent rod breakage/line snap. Once fishes attached to clip on the stringer, they mellowed out, hang loose with minimal struggle without endanger their bodies, while I focus on the other pigs. Win-win.

If you want to experiment on-in toon/tube, let me know. You can use one, I'll use the other right next to you. It's a basket case when you land a pig.

smokehound
10-03-2011, 02:53 PM
Ever tube and handle a pig in you tube, while maintaining stability with your legs and handle the fight one handed? Not happening. The tube has a little mesh tray for usage, you can manage to calm the fish down enough. Toon wise..what tray? Bag to the right (hooks, baits, etc.), bag to the left (fish finder with batteries), your lap is used by body to balance on feet rests, forming a V-pattern. Fish on lap is suicide to your gonads and little willie. Platform on the back is perfect, but plenty of storage equipment on back (cooler, PFD, clothes, and other gears)..then constant fishes hitting the lines while keeping toon lined up with the lines to prevent the rod from snapping with one hand, as you handle the rod and reeling in the other. On top of that, your legs are way too high to use fins for kicking to stabilize. Total chaos. Quickest response is, pull the fish to stringer, take clip on stringer, attach to fish to clip, remove hook quickly, put rod into holder in forward position, slack the line immediate for possible hit from the same school, focus on 2nd rod with catch to prevent rod breakage/line snap. Once fishes attached to clip on the stringer, they mellowed out, hang loose with minimal struggle without endanger their bodies, while I focus on the other pigs. Win-win.

If you want to experiment on-in toon/tube, let me know. You can use one, I'll use the other right next to you. It's a basket case when you land a pig.Or you could just bounce the fish up and lip it.

fish-o-haulic
10-03-2011, 03:40 PM
Wow you guys are rediculous. he left a report take it or leave it. He didnt attempt to keep bass he put em on a stringer to show others. I see people do it all the time then release fish. If you can put other fish on a stringer then release them and theyll live then why wouldnt bass. You guys act like he killed every single bass on the lake. Believe it or not there are others that havent been on this forum for years and dont get blasted about showing a days catch while there on the water. The funny thing is most of you would looked at his stringer of fish congradulated him on them and then came on this forum to complain. Grown *** men acting like children. this forum is by far the funniest thing ive seen in my life.

fish-o-haulic
10-03-2011, 03:43 PM
:Rolls Eyes: Uhhhh OK?:ROFL: The same guy that told someone to fish Lake Matthews. And why someone would put bass on a stringer, or any fish you are going to realese make absolutely no sense to me. Not good for the fishies :Explode:

So you make analysis of people based on one bad post they may have left. You should probably check his posting history. I bet if i check yours it would just be full of wonderful fishing knowledge.:Rolls Eyes:

headcase881
10-03-2011, 03:48 PM
Well for one this is a opinion based web site. So be prepared for people not to agree with some of ur methods

fish-o-haulic
10-03-2011, 03:54 PM
Well for one this is a opinion based web site. So be prepared for people not to agree with some of ur methods

I already know ive opened the door to get blasted by people. But at least you were grown up enough to say what you had to say without being a dick about it.

headcase881
10-03-2011, 04:01 PM
its all good let this whole thing rest asianguy has definatly herd enough hahaha its fishing like u said he didnt devastated th population at all in that lake they are everywhere and ill leave it at that

fish-o-haulic
10-03-2011, 04:33 PM
its all good let this whole thing rest asianguy has definatly herd enough hahaha its fishing like u said he didnt devastated th population at all in that lake they are everywhere and ill leave it at that

I still gotta admit though posting up about keeping bass. not the wisest choice. though i get that he said he was just doing it to show people, myself as well as other fisherman do and have done the same thing.

headcase881
10-03-2011, 05:15 PM
I just know if it hits the string im gonna kill it. I just personally know how fish will act on a string on the tube they do not like fins kicking by them I have had trout jump back in my lap while on the string

Sublime-Steve
10-03-2011, 06:18 PM
Theasianguy, Yea the camera is digital, go to bestbuy and ask them for a fujifilm waterproof camera, I really wanna see that stringer and am intrested in 1 for trout and would it work on redear n bluegull? striper:???:

Sublime-Steve
10-03-2011, 06:23 PM
nm just read your PM lol

TheAsianGuy
10-03-2011, 06:33 PM
Theasianguy, Yea the camera is digital, go to bestbuy and ask them for a fujifilm waterproof camera, I really wanna see that stringer and am intrested in 1 for trout and would it work on redear n bluegull? striper:???:

:LOL: Trout and bass is the same design at 48psi set for trouts, and 52psi for the basses. Stripers, well, anything greater than 20lbs of sheer fighting forces, we may have to pump that spring tension up to 60 or 65psi. Can't say that I've tested at that pressure for something that has so much fighting potential without damaging the jaw structure. I tested at 56psi on a few 3lbs basses before, and didn't see any fatigue or damages exhibited after a few hours of holding time. You and James may be my testing patners for those monsters? If anyone wanted to give it a whirl, PM me.

If you want something for panfishes (bluegulls? :LOL: oh..I don't think these will hold the flying kind), I have something smaller I experimented once. It worked, but I rather stick with the floating mesh basket. Much simpler.

phishin phool
10-03-2011, 08:06 PM
:Big Smile:Nah, mine are usually pretty lame.
So you make analysis of people based on one bad post they may have left. You should probably check his posting history. I bet if i check yours it would just be full of wonderful fishing knowledge.:Rolls Eyes:

fish-o-haulic
10-03-2011, 08:08 PM
:Big Smile:Nah, mine are usually pretty lame.

About equivalent to mine, unless its catfish my fishing ability sucks. I cant fish for crap but yet i still go.

Jeremy Wade Jr
10-03-2011, 08:57 PM
Can't say that I agree with the whole stringer idea.. I was at Perris the other day and Fish-N-Game was already there waiting to pounce on me when I got back to shore. Got skunked but I guess they figured they needed to question me and my friend as soon as we got in. Imagine if I had 7 bass on a stringer though.. lol.

Believe you about the fish though.. I was at Pete Marino's seminar the other day.. he said he averages about 18-25 bass a day. Took mental notes of the places he had his clients catching the fish on his pics too.. lol. :Secret:

phishin phool
10-03-2011, 10:15 PM
Yeah I hear ya. I know trout but thats pretty much it. Bass......no:Head Bang:. Salt.......no:Titanic:. panfish and catfish.....not really:Neutral:. Doesn't mean I dont like to fish for them I'm just not good at catching them. But like you I still love it and cant wait to get out there and do it. :Big Grin:
About equivalent to mine, unless its catfish my fishing ability sucks. I cant fish for crap but yet i still go.

I M Hooked
10-04-2011, 12:14 PM
Can't say that I agree with the whole stringer idea.. I was at Perris the other day and Fish-N-Game was already there waiting to pounce on me when I got back to shore. Got skunked but I guess they figured they needed to question me and my friend as soon as we got in. Imagine if I had 7 bass on a stringer though.. lol.

Believe you about the fish though.. I was at Pete Marino's seminar the other day.. he said he averages about 18-25 bass a day. Took mental notes of the places he had his clients catching the fish on his pics too.. lol. :Secret:

I read this same knid of thing a couple of times lately. Just because you can see a general whereabouts from a photo of where someone is fishing does not mean youll target that ridge or cliff or flat that he was after that day. If you wanna catch fish like James or Pete or some of the other guys on that lake then get some sonar and get out on that lake often enough to learn it.

TheAsianGuy
10-04-2011, 12:31 PM
I read this same knid of thing a couple of times lately. Just because you can see a general whereabouts from a photo of where someone is fishing does not mean youll target that ridge or cliff or flat that he was after that day. If you wanna catch fish like James or Pete or some of the other guys on that lake then get some sonar and get out on that lake often enough to learn it.

AMEN! You can toss lines all day in the same areas that the pro uses, but come up empty. Fish Finders are the only way to go.

bassgrabber1
10-04-2011, 04:46 PM
I read this same knid of thing a couple of times lately. Just because you can see a general whereabouts from a photo of where someone is fishing does not mean youll target that ridge or cliff or flat that he was after that day. If you wanna catch fish like James or Pete or some of the other guys on that lake then get some sonar and get out on that lake often enough to learn it.
You are right! I don't keep any spots a secret....Pete will tell you where he catches fish but many would come up empty. The way to become a good fisherman is to get that time out on the water. I use my fishfinder to look for structure. It also gives me depths and temps....it is a very useful tool.

Jeremy Wade Jr
10-04-2011, 05:16 PM
I read this same knid of thing a couple of times lately. Just because you can see a general whereabouts from a photo of where someone is fishing does not mean youll target that ridge or cliff or flat that he was after that day. If you wanna catch fish like James or Pete or some of the other guys on that lake then get some sonar and get out on that lake often enough to learn it.

True that, I recently purchased a small boat so I'm fairly new to fishing Perris offshore, last time I tried I got skunked and have only caught one bass so far in a couple of outings. I took Pete's seminar in like I was preparing for my final, definitely have a fish finder on my wish list though, i'm more familiar with the structure at Puddingstone than Perris I would say, helps to take mental notes as to where some big ones might be for future reference :Envious:

JeffO
10-04-2011, 05:21 PM
AsianGuy, nice work out there at Perris. I'm gonna be there this Saturday with my boat. Last time I PM'd Sublime_Steve he wanted to head out with me. Maybe we'll catch you (not literally) out there.

-jeff

bassgrabber1
10-04-2011, 05:37 PM
AsianGuy, nice work out there at Perris. I'm gonna be there this Saturday with my boat. Last time I PM'd Sublime_Steve he wanted to head out with me. Maybe we'll catch you (not literally) out there.

-jeff

Steve is a good guy....he goes with me every week. He can show you some good spots.

JeffO
10-05-2011, 02:20 PM
Steve is a good guy....he goes with me every week. He can show you some good spots.

Awesome :) stoked to get out that way -- haven't fished Perris in about 10 years...

TheAsianGuy
10-05-2011, 03:44 PM
AsianGuy, nice work out there at Perris. I'm gonna be there this Saturday with my boat. Last time I PM'd Sublime_Steve he wanted to head out with me. Maybe we'll catch you (not literally) out there.

:LOL: Just don't try to catch me with your 4/0 hook or the double-trebles crank baits. But would love to see you out there in the water. See a guy hustling on the blue inflatable pontoon, give me a hola.

James, Steve, got the raw materials for the stringer modification. I've changed the spring tensions for the larger clips to 68psi to hold onto even the hardest of fighters, but will still cause no jaw damage. I have the smaller clips set to 48psi to hold the smaller ones (up to 7lbs), which includes trouts, basses, crappies, and of course, the larger panfishes with small mouths. Can't say a 1/2lbs gill can actually have this clip's arm in its mouth. It's like shoving your fist into your mouth :LOL: PM me if you want me to send it by mail, pick it up at my place or at the lake's office that you know someone will hold it for you.

bassgrabber1
10-05-2011, 03:55 PM
:LOL: Just don't try to catch me with your 4/0 hook or the double-trebles crank baits. But would love to see you out there in the water. See a guy hustling on the blue inflatable pontoon, give me a hola.

James, Steve, got the raw materials for the stringer modification. I've changed the spring tensions for the larger clips to 68psi to hold onto even the hardest of fighters, but will still cause no jaw damage. I have the smaller clips set to 48psi to hold the smaller ones (up to 7lbs), which includes trouts, basses, crappies, and of course, the larger panfishes with small mouths. Can't say a 1/2lbs gill can actually have this clip's arm in its mouth. It's like shoving your fist into your mouth :LOL: PM me if you want me to send it by mail, pick it up at my place or at the lake's office that you know someone will hold it for you.

I sent you a PM on FB....hola back.

Pete Marino
10-06-2011, 02:18 AM
TheAsianGuy....Im not sure what day you are talking about?? If you were there on The same day you made your post 10/1 then it wasnt me you saw cause on Sat 10/1 I was at BassPro all morning and day...
I was there the Thursday before that with my brother in law and his uncle.....if it was that day, I didnt notice anybody waving at me...you should have stopped and introduced your self.. I was doing my thing and may not have noticed anybody waving.
As far as "Myspots".....Ive never been one to keep areas I catch them at a secret. I never worry about people seeing the areas in my photos and I NEVER black out the photos to "hide" my spots...Thats Lame, I have better things to do with my time then to act like that. I simply dont care about people fishing "my spots".....Trust me If I wanted to keep my spots secret, I wouldnt take pics showing the shoreline...and I wouldnt give such detailed reports......That being said.......You make it sound like you found some hidden Honey hole of mine....Its Lake Perris..there arent any hidden honey holes along the shoreline....And I surely dont try to hide the areas I fish...The lake is open to anybody...you can fish anywhere you want.. As far as my offshore stuff I fish...if you can find them, you too can fish them...
Im a little more tight lipped in my reports during the tournament season but its the offseason and these fish are on the move.....Its simple....find the GRASS AND the Big threadfin shad (Not the micro bait) and youll find the bass. Those are the keys to the shoreline areas right now.
Im always seeing people out there struggling to catch them and I ALWAYS give them useful advice.....fishing is about having fun and I like to see people having just as much fun as I am.
If you see me out there STOP and say hello.. Tight lines!!

TheAsianGuy
10-06-2011, 09:07 AM
Ah..sorry about the mistaken identity. The large red logos on motor, plus the boat's color looks so much like yours, plus, a young look (minus the facial hair) looks similar to your facial profile. Hope the next time we meet, it would be you, and I'll say hi. Man power vs boat motor..machine wins :LOL: Can't row that fast if you move every 15 minutes.

Grass is not a hot spot during late morning or into the afternoon. However, during the early hours, large shad crank baits (got two of those), small frogs (2 of those), and the large Rapala minnows seem to be the keys for some reason. Frogs..man, they jump them like it's gold, plus they're weedless design, which is a great thing. Can be a pain to lip them at time.

Tight lines! Oh..make sure to post your schedule of lectures and locations. Love to attend a few of yours hours of wisdom.

white belt
10-06-2011, 09:37 AM
Anyone else get a virus pop up when they view this thread?

bassgrabber1
10-06-2011, 09:53 AM
Anyone else get a virus pop up when they view this thread?

Nope....cant say that I have.

TheAsianGuy
10-06-2011, 09:54 AM
Anyone else get a virus pop up when they view this thread?

?? I think your browser is hit with a BHO or malware trojan. It's your system..not the website. Might want to clean your system up.

white belt
10-06-2011, 09:58 AM
?? I think your browser is hit th a BHO or malware trojan. It's your system..not the website. Might want to clean your system up.

I hope its not the system im on my work comp hahaha

Pete Marino
10-06-2011, 10:38 AM
Yeah you probably had mistaken me for Jeremy (Pigdestroyer) He and a buddy own a Skeeter that is the same exact color as mine..the only difference is that his is a smaller model, the motor is smaller and the seats arte different color.
As Far as moving every 15 minutes...Thats absolutely NOT me because I sit on most of my spots for HOURS.. Even if the bite is slow Ill still work the area hard for at LEAST an hour. Ill change angles and sizes of baits before i move because I know bass are on all the spots I fish..(The graph doesnt lie) ;)

As far as the grass in late morning.... I never said I fishing the grass in late morning... I fish it first thing for about an hour or 2 depending on conditions then I go deep..
I know the frog bite is good....I had almost 27 lbs for my best five last week when I took my brother in law out there... Because he wanted to mess around with throwing the SPRO frog and we crushed them. That bite has been good for about 3 months...
As far as a big shad crankbait... there are better baits to use around the grass.. big crankbaits go too deep and get buried in the grass....THINK JERKBAITS, LIPLESS CRANKS OR SCROUNGERS!! And your success will go up..
With clients Ill fish shallow early and then hit my offshore structure spots in deep water as the morning wears on and into the afternoon... THE DEEP BITE IS AWESOME.

Tight lines..


Oh and no popups on my end ...knock on wood!!
Pete

exfactor
10-06-2011, 01:13 PM
Just finished reading the report, and replies. My question is, if you spent a year researching this stringer of yours, your gonna tell me that you didn't think about how am I gonna attach this to my boat? I don't get it

TheAsianGuy
10-06-2011, 02:06 PM
Just finished reading the report, and replies. My question is, if you spent a year researching this stringer of yours, your gonna tell me that you didn't think about how am I gonna attach this to my boat? I don't get it

?? I researched the stringer modification for both shoreline fishing as well as tubing/tooning. Boat wise, same deal. If you're planning to string fishes, best to keep the stringer's depth to the same length distant of your stringer's attached position relative to the fish finder. Example, my fish finder is at the left-front of my toon. The stringer position is at the left-back of my toon. Total direct distant is 7ft. My quad-sonar for my Humminbird will detect anything below 1ft, with a 3ft immediate radius from the transducer. I only use 3 to 5ft of allowable depth for my fish to travel before they reach the radius of sonar detection. In the meanwhile, I make sure the fishes on the stringer stay in the shadow of my toon's platform, or the two inflatable bladders. Thus, the 15-min of constant monitoring while I row.

To attach the stringer at variable depth on the toon/tube, I have a fast spring clip at one end, this allows me to quickly create a new temp hangman's knot/simple loop, attach the quick spring clip to it, and the main line. Instant attachment anywhere, even on a small ledge if you like. Use your mind, and many imaginative and inventive approaches will come about.


Yeah you probably had mistaken me for Jeremy (Pigdestroyer) He and a buddy own a Skeeter that is the same exact color as mine..the only difference is that his is a smaller model, the motor is smaller and the seats arte different color.
As Far as moving every 15 minutes...Thats absolutely NOT me because I sit on most of my spots for HOURS.. Even if the bite is slow Ill still work the area hard for at LEAST an hour. Ill change angles and sizes of baits before i move because I know bass are on all the spots I fish..(The graph doesnt lie) ;)

As far as the grass in late morning.... I never said I fishing the grass in late morning... I fish it first thing for about an hour or 2 depending on conditions then I go deep..
I know the frog bite is good....I had almost 27 lbs for my best five last week when I took my brother in law out there... Because he wanted to mess around with throwing the SPRO frog and we crushed them. That bite has been good for about 3 months...
As far as a big shad crankbait... there are better baits to use around the grass.. big crankbaits go too deep and get buried in the grass....THINK JERKBAITS, LIPLESS CRANKS OR SCROUNGERS!! And your success will go up..
With clients Ill fish shallow early and then hit my offshore structure spots in deep water as the morning wears on and into the afternoon... THE DEEP BITE IS AWESOME.


Thanks for the bait types' tips Pete. I'll keep that in mind about Jeremy's boat. I know you've warned us about his boat mistaken with yours. I have his face implanted into my brain now. Now..I need to implant your face and your larger boat into my little noggin. You're not kidding about going deep. I wish I had a second thermometer to detect where the exact thermocline of the water is. They kept on lingering at a specific depth, and the large ones tend to chase the smaller ones all over the place within that depth. Drove me nuts to have to adjust my lines every few seconds to hammer those pigs, while rowing at the same time. I'll just anchor next time, and perform less on the trolling madness.

fish-o-haulic
10-06-2011, 03:23 PM
TheAsianGuy....Im not sure what day you are talking about?? If you were there on The same day you made your post 10/1 then it wasnt me you saw cause on Sat 10/1 I was at BassPro all morning and day...
I was there the Thursday before that with my brother in law and his uncle.....if it was that day, I didnt notice anybody waving at me...you should have stopped and introduced your self.. I was doing my thing and may not have noticed anybody waving.
As far as "Myspots".....Ive never been one to keep areas I catch them at a secret. I never worry about people seeing the areas in my photos and I NEVER black out the photos to "hide" my spots...Thats Lame, I have better things to do with my time then to act like that. I simply dont care about people fishing "my spots".....Trust me If I wanted to keep my spots secret, I wouldnt take pics showing the shoreline...and I wouldnt give such detailed reports......That being said.......You make it sound like you found some hidden Honey hole of mine....Its Lake Perris..there arent any hidden honey holes along the shoreline....And I surely dont try to hide the areas I fish...The lake is open to anybody...you can fish anywhere you want.. As far as my offshore stuff I fish...if you can find them, you too can fish them...
Im a little more tight lipped in my reports during the tournament season but its the offseason and these fish are on the move.....Its simple....find the GRASS AND the Big threadfin shad (Not the micro bait) and youll find the bass. Those are the keys to the shoreline areas right now.
Im always seeing people out there struggling to catch them and I ALWAYS give them useful advice.....fishing is about having fun and I like to see people having just as much fun as I am.
If you see me out there STOP and say hello.. Tight lines!!

Very well said comment, I agree 100%. No hiding spots for me the lake is for everyone not just the fnners. But being tight lipped during a tournament season is understandable and smart to say the least.

Sandman_Tracker
10-07-2011, 08:05 AM
I just kinda skimmed through this thread, so if someone already mentioned this, then my apologies....You do realize that the "possession” limit is 5. From reading, it seems like you possessed more then 5. That is why some fishermen cull.


“1.17. Bag and Possession Limit.
No more than one daily bag limit of each kind of fish, amphibian, reptile, mollusk or crustacean named in these regulations may be taken or possessed by any one person unless otherwise authorized; regardless of whether they are fresh, frozen, or otherwise preserved. Exceptions: See Sections 7.00 (http://www.dfg.ca.gov/regulations/FreshFish-Mar2011/ccr-t14-ch3-art2.html), 7.50 (http://www.dfg.ca.gov/regulations/FreshFish-Mar2011/ccr-t14-ch3-art3.html)(a), 27.60(c), and 195, Title 14, CCR.”

Just my .02, but I don’t agree with keeping a stringer of fish just to take a photo. If you’re on a tube and you need to put one on a stringer to get your camera out, that’s cool. But to keep a stringer full of bass or any kind of fish, I don’t agree with…..except cats, they are like roaches and live forever. Anyway, not trying to cause an argument, just giving my .02…

seal
10-07-2011, 08:42 AM
These have been fairly calm responses to potential harm to the beloved LMB's, I commend the BN's for not going for the throat!

There is another waterproof (to 12 ft supposedly) and shockproof camera that I purchased recently by Kodak, cheap ($80.00) and does the job for fish photo's, no image recognition or fancy stuff but will supposedly even take movies underwater. I am not going to test the underwater claims but got tired of accidently killing more expensive non-waterproof camera's in the rain or from my stupidity, so I went cheap. They were at the time giving away a little orange float when purchased that attaches to the camera leash, kind of looks like a kids floaty but hell I could give a damn if I don't have to worry about rain or dropping it in the drink (floaty will keep it afloat).

Nice day out there Asianguy, too bad about the stringer failure and keep only 5 on there or they'll hit you with a huge ticket (you should know that!). By the way if your not worried about dropping your camera you may find that there is no need for the stringer, I take photo's from my tube all the time if I drop the camera no big deal got my orange floaty as a marker!

bassgrabber1
10-07-2011, 09:45 AM
I just kinda skimmed through this thread, so if someone already mentioned this, then my apologies....You do realize that the "possession” limit is 5. From reading, it seems like you possessed more then 5. That is why some fishermen cull.


“1.17. Bag and Possession Limit.
No more than one daily bag limit of each kind of fish, amphibian, reptile, mollusk or crustacean named in these regulations may be taken or possessed by any one person unless otherwise authorized; regardless of whether they are fresh, frozen, or otherwise preserved. Exceptions: See Sections 7.00 (http://www.dfg.ca.gov/regulations/FreshFish-Mar2011/ccr-t14-ch3-art2.html), 7.50 (http://www.dfg.ca.gov/regulations/FreshFish-Mar2011/ccr-t14-ch3-art3.html)(a), 27.60(c), and 195, Title 14, CCR.”

Just my .02, but I don’t agree with keeping a stringer of fish just to take a photo. If you’re on a tube and you need to put one on a stringer to get your camera out, that’s cool. But to keep a stringer full of bass or any kind of fish, I don’t agree with…..except cats, they are like roaches and live forever. Anyway, not trying to cause an argument, just giving my .02…

Actually the limit at Perris is 2 at 15" ..... posted at the entry gates.

Sandman_Tracker
10-07-2011, 10:07 AM
Actually the limit at Perris is 2 at 15" ..... posted at the entry gates.

Then that's even worse...lol. Doesn't matter to me, I don't keep LMB. I was just stating that it sounds like he could have got popped for his stringer.

On a side note, I'll be fishing LP this Saturday. I need to get familiar with that lake since it's in my backyard now....I think I'll take my baby girl (5) and wife out with me. I could set up a drop shot for her or even drag a worm a few feet deep with a bobber for her. As for me, maybe I can hook into one of these lunkers everyone keeps talking about.

bassgrabber1
10-07-2011, 11:16 AM
The lunkers are hard to convince to bite but there are many 4 to 5 pounders that are willing. Drop shot works great on fish up to 3lbs (in my experiance). For bigger fish I would throw big baits on a Texas rig...senkos and craws....good luck out there...I will be there Sunday.