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efrain
08-29-2011, 08:45 AM
Been trying to catch a hali in the surf for 4 months now and have not got a hit, been fishing hard baits and swimbaits with countless calicos, but still no halis,i mainly stay in south oc if any one has any suggestions please let me know.

TUNAVIC
08-29-2011, 11:10 AM
Not a bad job on the calicos,some people would be ecstatic with that, keep slinging you will undoubtedly end up with some butts,just a matter of time.

keepemlo
08-29-2011, 02:26 PM
Hey don't feel bad I never thought about it but it's been about that long or longer for me....for some reason I don't mind I look at it like a very vigorous walk on the beach ..it's all about finding that spot ,,,keep it up I have faith

efrain
08-29-2011, 06:30 PM
thanks guys

DockRat
08-30-2011, 09:20 AM
Are you tossing sinker hardbaits ? Have you been losing hardbaits ?
Since the Halis are laying on the bottom then that is where the swim/hardbait must be. Either bouncing off the bottom or within a foot or two of the bottom is the spot. If your fishing around rocks then you will be losing them on snags, this gets expensive $. When you read about a SWAT session where someone lost 2 - 4 LCs fishing around structure that is because they are in the zone where you want to be.

The Halibut love to sit next to rocks because structure draws baitfish.
Here is a example; Say your fishing a jetty or breakwall, the halibut prefer to sit within 5' to 10' away from the rocks and less of them will be 50' out in the open sand area. If your on the rocks that means your going to lose more gear because right when you get in the zone you have to reel up to avoid getting snagged since the rocks are stacked like a pyramid. On a boat you don't have this problem since your pulling away from the stucture.

Sandy beaches you have to keep moving to find one. After several casts at various angles then move 50' to 100' and try again. That is why SWAT is so productive because they keep moving and do up to couple miles of shoreline.

The LC's dives to 6' right away to a suspending level and that is what makes them so great.
Lots of posts of LCs getting beat up/scratched and hook points worn from bouncing off the round rocks, Slow cranking can keep the hardbait off the bottom. Faster cranking will cause the hardbait to dive then snowplow and be digging into the sand, where you want to be on the bottom, then stopping for a few seconds with rod tip up high will cause the LC to float or suspend up off the bottom a little to the ideal spot to resume slow cranking.

When tossing a Kroc/Swimbait/Kastmaster you want to let it sink to the bottom then start reeling in, after several cranks if you think your to far off the bottom then stop and wait for it to sink back to the bottom then resume cranking.

I'm no LC expert and just got into them a year or so ago so hopefully some SWAT LC expert will chime in and correct any wrong advice above.

My surf fishing time after work is 5 pm when the wind is usually blowing onshore and my preference is the blue/chrome Kroc for casting reasons to cover more ground.
Good Luck, DR

Pet Halibut Sitting Next to Structure.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmeN4YYEaJo

Structure Halibut.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty9f5_pxMas

17 lb Halibut Full of Crabs, Snails, Shells :Shocked: Who Knew ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3T1QeYtqd8

Psycho_fish'r
08-30-2011, 10:00 AM
Try the Brookhurst St Jetty. Lucky Craft 110 Flash Minnows, drop shot pearl white Zoom Flukes. If you can get live smelt, you'll kill them. Incoming tide is usually the best.

TUNAVIC
08-30-2011, 10:44 AM
Really cool videos,thanks DR.

DockRat
08-30-2011, 11:23 AM
Really cool videos,thanks DR.
Thanks Vic.
That reply took over a hour but sitting here with a broken leg @ the ankle not much else to do. Lol
Start looking at videos and time flys by.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkzyTOmCcgk

DR

Wingnut
08-30-2011, 01:55 PM
Are you tossing sinker hardbaits ? Have you been losing hardbaits ?
Since the Halis are laying on the bottom then that is where the swim/hardbait must be. Either bouncing off the bottom or within a foot or two of the bottom is the spot. If your fishing around rocks then you will be losing them on snags, this gets expensive $. When you read about a SWAT session where someone lost 2 - 4 LCs fishing around structure that is because they are in the zone where you want to be.

The Halibut love to sit next to rocks because structure draws baitfish.
Here is a example; Say your fishing a jetty or breakwall, the halibut prefer to sit within 5' to 10' away from the rocks and less of them will be 50' out in the open sand area. If your on the rocks that means your going to lose more gear because right when you get in the zone you have to reel up to avoid getting snagged since the rocks are stacked like a pyramid. On a boat you don't have this problem since your pulling away from the stucture.

Sandy beaches you have to keep moving to find one. After several casts at various angles then move 50' to 100' and try again. That is why SWAT is so productive because they keep moving and do up to couple miles of shoreline.

The LC's dives to 6' right away to a suspending level and that is what makes them so great.
Lots of posts of LCs getting beat up/scratched and hook points worn from bouncing off the round rocks, Slow cranking can keep the hardbait off the bottom. Faster cranking will cause the hardbait to dive then snowplow and be digging into the sand, where you want to be on the bottom, then stopping for a few seconds with rod tip up high will cause the LC to float or suspend up off the bottom a little to the ideal spot to resume slow cranking.

When tossing a Kroc/Swimbait/Kastmaster you want to let it sink to the bottom then start reeling in, after several cranks if you think your to far off the bottom then stop and wait for it to sink back to the bottom then resume cranking.

I'm no LC expert and just got into them a year or so ago so hopefully some SWAT LC expert will chime in and correct any wrong advice above.

My surf fishing time after work is 5 pm when the wind is usually blowing onshore and my preference is the blue/chrome Kroc for casting reasons to cover more ground.
Good Luck, DR

Pet Halibut Sitting Next to Structure.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmeN4YYEaJo

Structure Halibut.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty9f5_pxMas

17 lb Halibut Full of Crabs, Snails, Shells :Shocked: Who Knew ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3T1QeYtqd8

Nice post and good advice Martin. :Cool:
Heal up quick and get back out there! :Wink:

efrain
08-31-2011, 08:30 AM
thanks everyone , those vids are cool.