Phenix Iron Feather IF-682-2 and IF722-2

[yafool]

SOLD. Thanks for looking

[AngryAgent]

Just curious why you're selling them?

[pie 13]

Just curious why you're selling them?

you haven't heard the feather weak, their to thin on the tip,hey phenix is returning all the money back, i know this because i broke 2 rods on fish, return for full refund, im so piss off the iron feather is junk.

[E.A.R.G.]

Wow, really? Can anyone verify this?!!

This would be a hard hit for phenix. Iron feather is their crown jewel.

[farmerandy16]

NO WAY! ive seen them and they are quality rods, i have a mirage and its reallllly nice.. iron feather is no different..

they are all quality rods! just expensive..

-andy

[AngryAgent]

NO WAY! ive seen them and they are quality rods, i have a mirage and its reallllly nice.. iron feather is no different..

they are all quality rods! just expensive..

-andy

Actually Andy the Iron Feather is very different. The tip has the outside material stripped off of it down the the inside material which is what makes the tip diameter so thin whereas the Mirage doesn't. They are actually quite different.

[yafool]

I am selling because I have IF79-2 and the IF86-2 as well and those two are my primary ones. I dont use these two shorter ones as much. They are extremely strong rods and yes, the tips may be fragile, but the backbone is the strongest ive seen in any rod. The T46 graphite makes them very light and sensitive. I have heard of the tips breaking from being careless or from people showing off to their friends how limber they are and bending them too much. Because it is so thin, it is easy to get your line wrapped around the tip, and when its wrapped and you swing on a fish, it can break pretty easy. I hate to say this and people dont like to admit it, but usually when a rod breaks, its user error. Rule of thumb for high performance rods. The more expensive it is, the more sensitive and light it is, the easier it is to break accidentally. Just my 2 cents

[gavin310]

Is this true? The tip on the Iron Feather is incredibly thin, yes, but it's been demonstrated over and over that it's strong enough to withstand it bending in an almost complete circle.

[AngryAgent]

I am selling because I have IF79-2 and the IF86-2 as well and those two are my primary ones. I dont use these two shorter ones as much. They are extremely strong rods and yes, the tips may be fragile, but the backbone is the strongest ive seen in any rod. The T46 graphite makes them very light and sensitive. I have heard of the tips breaking from being careless or from people showing off to their friends how limber they are and bending them too much. Because it is so thin, it is easy to get your line wrapped around the tip, and when its wrapped and you swing on a fish, it can break pretty easy. I hate to say this and people dont like to admit it, but usually when a rod breaks, its user error. Rule of thumb for high performance rods. The more expensive it is, the more sensitive and light it is, the easier it is to break accidentally. Just my 2 cents


I agree with everything you just said. Thanks just wanted to know why you were getting rid of them.

[yafool]

Ive used all the Iron Feathers ever since theyve been out, and I primarily use them for striper fishing at castaic. Ive never had a problem, with stripers up to 10lbs. I have also caught a 15lb sturgeon at Santa Ana on the IF72 with no problems.

[the killa]

i know 2 guys that have broken 3 iron feathers.... they boths went back to the g-loomis rods...

[pie 13]

i know 2 guys that have broken 3 iron feathers.... they boths went back to the g-loomis rods...

killa, what think about the iron feather?

[gavin310]

Another thing to keep in mind is Phenix's rod replacement program, which is very generous IMO. If you break a rod for any reason (as far as I know) you can pay the replacement fee and get another. To replace an Iron Feather it's $120 and for the Elixer and Mirage it's only $50. Obviously if a rod breaks for reasons covered in the warranty that's different and you won't be charged. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's spelled out pretty clearly on their warranty page: http://www.phenixrods.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=16

[Daryl]

Phenix stands behind their product. I had a guide insert pop out and simply brought the rod in and they gave me a new rod on the spot... No charge.

If you break it and it's your fault, you pay a small replacement fee and get new rod, if it breaks for a reason due to some other defect, they replace it for free.

I have the 7'9" and it really is an amazing rod.

[Daryl]

I should mention that the guide insert popped out of an Elixer, not the Iron Feather.

[gavin310]

Oh and, yafool, sorry this thread turned into a debate about Phenix rods ;) If I didn't have other financial obligations I would be thinking of buying those off you.

[Troutcz swimbait]

I like all 6 of mine no problems at all.

[bsp]

I've got a 7'9" one piece and seen zero errors with it in the breakage department for what it's worth.

[AngryAgent]

I've got a 7'9" one piece and seen zero errors with it in the breakage department for what it's worth.

$400.00:Envious:

[formosa]

you haven't heard the feather weak, their to thin on the tip,hey phenix is returning all the money back, i know this because i broke 2 rods on fish, return for full refund, im so piss off the iron feather is junk.

i am very curious why and how you broke "2 iron feather" on fish . yes they are thin on the tip, but if you spent that much hard earn money for them, would you take very care of them, and if you broke one why you broke
another one. and you RETURN FOR FULL REFUND? i do know Phenix has policy for broken rods. not like you said
got FULL REFUND????????............. just my 2 cent.

[farmerandy16]

the rods are completely different, the tip is actually too soft for me. plus, its a 200 dollar difference! it better be! im just saying phenix makes quality stuff!

but 400$ is just to much for a trout rod.

i catch the same amount of fish with my amtech blank/mirage/and compre ;D all of those together is about the same as an iron feather

-andy

[Kimbo]

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[the killa]

killa, what think about the iron feather?

i have never had any problems with the proto type one that i had... i had been fishing that one for almost a year now. just currently returned tho.

I wuld talk to Jason over there and see what he will do for you. Dont talk to anyone else... Jason will take care of it....

[yafool]

so after all this debate, does anyone still want to buy a bad *** rod at a great price? hahaha

I own all three series of trout rods phenix makes. They are the only company that is able to come out with 3 different series of rods just for trout, and all three have completely different characteristics and personalities. Each one has their proper applications. I can see why the IF is so expensive. A set of Fuji Titanium SiC guides alone is more than a hundred bucks. I do not blame them for having a higher broken rod exchange price for this one specific rod. They would go broke if guys out there just decides to buy these rods, break them, and pop off the Ti guides and get it for 50 bucks.


You know, only in the United States is there such a thing as warranty for fishing rods. In Asia and Euro, you buy an expensive rod, you break it on the way out, tough luck. We've all been spoiled by loomis and shimano's rod replacement program.

[pie 13]

i am very curious why and how you broke "2 iron feather" on fish . yes they are thin on the tip, but if you spent that much hard earn money for them, would you take very care of them, and if you broke one why you broke
another one. and you RETURN FOR FULL REFUND? i do know Phenix has policy for broken rods. not like you said
got FULL REFUND????????............. just my 2 cent.

you tell me how i broke 2 rods? i was setting the hook on fish both times,maybe bad batch? what do u think? i"ll tell what im very dispointed with iron feather, really like the elixir series i have 5, great rod.

[the killa]

you tell me how i broke 2 rods? i was setting the hook on fish both times,maybe bad batch? what do u think? i"ll tell what im very dispointed with iron feather, really like the elixir series i have 5, great rod.

try some of the older style rods aswell... i have about 8 of those style....

[pie 13]

try some of the older style rods aswell... i have about 8 of those style....

killa, u have any 4 sale?

[bassoff]

Sorry for jacking your sale thread. I hope you sell your rods regardless of what comments are made on this thread.

Let me start this out by saying I have NO involvement with the Phenix Rod company, what so ever. My statement that will following is based on being in the industry and seeing 1st hand the production, development and field testing of bait, reels, rods and tackle.


Majority (85%-90%) of rods that are return to manufacturers broken, are due to Angler error. Fishing rods are not meant to be fished at an angle of more than 90 degrees. No matter if the rod is made of graphite, carbon fiber or kevlar material. Something will eventually give at a certain point. Of course depending on the quality grade of the material, some will be more forgiving than others. We all as anglers have seen many situations where either “we” or others, fighting fish have put our gear in jeopardy. Good examples are the individuals high sticking, bouncing in fish, pulling a snag with the rod and believe it or not the angle you may set your hook on that one fish. All of this will snap rods no matter how much money you spent on them. No matter what company you buy your fishing gear from (Phenix, Calstar, Seeker, Gloomis, Shimano, Kissler, Dobyns, etc.), these manufacturers all put their products through strength test. During these strength test, the blank or finish rod is never positioned more than 90 degrees. Now of course these companies also test their products in situations where an angler will abuse their gear to see where their product will fail. What I guess I’m trying to say is if you’re breaking multiple rods, maybe you should take a look at your actions instead of the product. I have a two-car garage and 1 side is full of rod racks and rods I have accumulated over the years from different manufacturers. I can safely with confidence that I have only broken about 3-4 rods and I WILL ADMIT it was angler error.




you haven't heard the feather weak, their to thin on the tip,hey phenix is returning all the money back, I know this because I broke 2 rods on fish, return for full refund, im so piss off the iron feather is junk.

You should consider yourself extremely lucky that a company will stand by their product like that and offer you a full refund. I wish others would do that cause I have some stuff I like to return to Shimano. LOL!!!

Consider their warranty program. It’s pretty good, compare to others that I have seen.

“Phenix Rods & Accessories, LLC (“Phenix Rods”) warrants that its fishing rods and blanks are free from defects in material and workmanship for the lifetime of the original owner. Subject to the conditions and limitations set forth below, Phenix Rods will, at its option, either repair or replace any part of its products that prove defective by reason of improper workmanship or materials.”

They stand by their workmanship, if they’re willing to replace or repair it if it is their fault.

No-Hassle Rod Replacement Program
Damages determined to be from accident, normal wear and tear, or neglect, Phenix Rod’s offers a no-hassle replacement policy. In the event a rod is broken, only the specific model of the broken rod can be replaced.

Rods
· $50 plus shipping for all Ultra MBX, Ultra MBX Classic, Crankbait, Ultra MBX-S, Super Flipper, Crappie, PT, PTX, Elixir, Mirage, freshwater series rods
· $60 plus shipping for all Ultra Swimbait rods
· $75 plus shipping for all Classic Swimbait rods
· $65 plus shipping for all Black Diamond series saltwater rods
· $100 plus shipping for all Black Diamond Hybrid series saltwater rods
· $120 plus shipping for Iron Feather Trout Rods
Blanks
· $25 plus shipping for all Ultra MBX, Crankbait, Ultra MBX-S, Crappie, PT, PTX, Elixir, Mirage freshwater series blanks
· $40 plus shipping for all Super Flipper, Ultra Swimbait freshwater series blanks
· $40 plus shipping for all Black Diamond series saltwater blanks
· $50 plus shipping for all 8'6" and over Black Diamond series saltwater blanks
· $60 plus shipping for all Black Diamond Hybrid series saltwater blanks
· $60 plus shipping for all Swimbait Classic blanks

I know Gloomis warranty has gone up to $100 and right now Shimano has a $0 rod replacement fee. Rumor has it is that Shimano will have a fee starting January but once again that is only rumors.



Upgrade Program
We value our loyal phenix rods owners. All rods manufactured by Phenix Rods prior to 2007 can be upgraded towards any new rod in our most current catalog. Rod owners with these rods can choose a rod within the series to the one that is being upgraded, and pay an upgrade fee of 50% off MSRP. All PT and PTX upgrades to the Elixir Series are subject to the upgrade fee. Rods to be traded in for upgrade must be in complete condition.
All shipping costs will be at the responsibility of the rod owner.

That is really not unheard of in the industry. Many companies do that especially if the product has been discontinued or has gone through a cosmetic makeover. But you announce it on their website and honor products that were before from the previous Owner (I believe they brought the company in 2007 if I remember correctly) is pretty cool if you ask me.








You know, only in the United States is there such a thing as warranty for fishing rods. In Asia and Euro, you buy an expensive rod, you break it on the way out, tough luck. We've all been spoiled by loomis and shimano's rod replacement program.


You got that correct buddy. I have heard on numerous occasions where my friends or other anglers say “I don’t care its under warranty”

The high end jigging rod manufacturers in Japan offer NO Warranty on the rods.

I have a couple of Fisherman Spinoza Rods from Japan and let me tell you at $700 a rod. If you break them, than you better be ready to part ways with your $700. Black Hole jigging rods only offer a one year warranty on their rods and if you’re like me. I like to keep my rods longer than a year.

[the killa]

pm me your number. I'll take care of you....

[notoriousrod]

I hope you sell these awesome rods!

I sold 4 of my GLoomis fly rods, that were custom wrapped for spinning. All I can say is, I love my Iron Feathers (IF792-2 and IF862-2)!!!

I have been a long time fan of Loomis rods when Gary Loomis was the owner of the company. When Shimano took over, their priority went from quality to quanity. Than to add more insult, they raised the price on their warranty if god forbids you break/damage a rod. I really wish Gary never went that route with that transaction. I hope that now he has started North Fork Composite, some quality rods will start popping up again. With that said, I have found Phenix's Iron Feather to be a well built rod and surpasses the GLoomis I use to have. I have not had any problems with the 2 that I currently own. The only complaint I have is, that I want them to build a 9' Iron Feather so I can replace my GLoomis F10812-4GLX

[formosa]

you tell me how i broke 2 rods? i was setting the hook on fish both times,maybe bad batch? what do u think? i"ll tell what im very dispointed with iron feather, really like the elixir series i have 5, great rod.

come on give me a break, you broke 2 rod, was setting the hook on fish both times?
what are you going for? try catch a whale?

[AngryAgent]

I hope you sell these awesome rods!

I sold 4 of my GLoomis fly rods, that were custom wrapped for spinning. All I can say is, I love my Iron Feathers (IF792-2 and IF862-2)!!!

I have been a long time fan of Loomis rods when Gary Loomis was the owner of the company. When Shimano took over, their priority went from quality to quanity. Than to add more insult, they raised the price on their warranty if god forbids you break/damage a rod. I really wish Gary never went that route with that transaction. I hope that now he has started North Fork Composite, some quality rods will start popping up again. With that said, I have found Phenix's Iron Feather to be a well built rod and surpasses the GLoomis I use to have. I have not had any problems with the 2 that I currently own. The only complaint I have is, that I want them to build a 9' Iron Feather so I can replace my GLoomis F10812-4GLX

I agree with you about Loomis and Shimano. Shimano has run that into the ground and for the guys who used Loomis for their custom builds they have been going elsewhere for a while now. The one thing I would like to say is take it easy on Gary. He was given 18 months to live because of his prostate cancer and he decided that he wanted to spend that last bit of time with his family and seeing the world. His mind set was the best reel company should own the best rod company. He never would have sold Loomis to Shimano had he known the outcome of his health and the path that Shimano was going to take with his rod company. He said himself it wasn't about the money and that Shimano didn't even offer him the most that there were more then a few other companies that offered him a substantial amount more then what Shimano gave.

[Daryl]

you tell me how i broke 2 rods? i was setting the hook on fish both times,maybe bad batch? what do u think? i"ll tell what im very dispointed with iron feather, really like the elixir series i have 5, great rod.

^^^^I'm calling shenanigans^^^^

[yafool]

?? Who are you going to take care of?
pm me your number. I'll take care of you....

[yafool]

Bassoff, thank you. Im on the same page as you.

[the killa]

killa, u have any 4 sale?

him.........

[apfish1969]

hi my name is adrian most of you guys know me im a prostaff from phenix and i think that you guys dont know what your talking about im fishing phenix rods for five years but if you know how to take care of fishing rod those things about breaking the tips it would happen some of you guys are not use to fish with a sensitive rod but if you got any questions why dont you call the company or the owner and let him know whats your concern about those rods instead of talking all that crap phenix is a small company but good quality rods if you got any questions why dont send a private message and i will explain it is nice to talk behind a keyboard but what talking face to face so we can explain you about the rods thank you all you guys.

[AngryAgent]

hi my name is adrian most of you guys know me im a prostaff from phenix and i think that you guys dont know what your talking about im fishing phenix rods for five years but if you know how to take care of fishing rod those things about breaking the tips it would happen some of you guys are not use to fish with a sensitive rod but if you got any questions why dont you call the company or the owner and let him know whats your concern about those rods instead of talking all that crap phenix is a small company but good quality rods if you got any questions why dont send a private message and i will explain it is nice to talk behind a keyboard but what talking face to face so we can explain you about the rods thank you all you guys.

I think if you're pro-staff you should try and come a little bit better then that especially when you're representing Jason and Phenix Rods. Saying things like "it's easy to talk behind a keyboard" doesn't give you a whole lot of credibility with people that come to a "MESSAGE BOARD" on "THE INTERNET" to talk about fishing and fishing products. People are gonna talk that's human nature and as a representative it's your job to try and educate them instead of stirring the pot even more. This is a public forum and what it is here for so if you don't like something you have read then post your opinion and offer facts as to why what they're saying is untrue. I myself don't like the Iron Feather and have talked to Jason about it personally on more then one occasion. I love the Elixir and the Ultra-MBX bass rods along with the Black Diamond and Hybrid rods but the Iron Feather just isn't for me. I have not posted why I don't like it out of respect for Jason and Phenix but you don't have a right to tell others not to talk about it on a public forum. Everyone doesn't like Phenix and that's just the way it is, just like everyone doesn't like Calstar but they like Seeker. To each his own ya dig:Wink:

[the killa]

I think if you're pro-staff you should try and come a little bit better then that especially when you're representing Jason and Phenix Rods. Saying things like "it's easy to talk behind a keyboard" doesn't give you a whole lot of credibility with people that come to a "MESSAGE BOARD" on "THE INTERNET" to talk about fishing and fishing products. People are gonna talk that's human nature and as a representative it's your job to try and educate them instead of stirring the pot even more. This is a public forum and what it is here for so if you don't like something you have read then post your opinion and offer facts as to why what they're saying is untrue. I myself don't like the Iron Feather and have talked to Jason about it personally on more then one occasion. I love the Elixir and the Ultra-MBX bass rods along with the Black Diamond and Hybrid rods but the Iron Feather just isn't for me. I have not posted why I don't like it out of respect for Jason and Phenix but you don't have a right to tell others not to talk about it on a public forum. Everyone doesn't like Phenix and that's just the way it is, just like everyone doesn't like Calstar but they like Seeker. To each his own ya dig:Wink:

Very well said

[MOON]

I think if you're pro-staff you should try and come a little bit better then that especially when you're representing Jason and Phenix Rods. Saying things like "it's easy to talk behind a keyboard" doesn't give you a whole lot of credibility with people that come to a "MESSAGE BOARD" on "THE INTERNET" to talk about fishing and fishing products. People are gonna talk that's human nature and as a representative it's your job to try and educate them instead of stirring the pot even more. This is a public forum and what it is here for so if you don't like something you have read then post your opinion and offer facts as to why what they're saying is untrue. I myself don't like the Iron Feather and have talked to Jason about it personally on more then one occasion. I love the Elixir and the Ultra-MBX bass rods along with the Black Diamond and Hybrid rods but the Iron Feather just isn't for me. I have not posted why I don't like it out of respect for Jason and Phenix but you don't have a right to tell others not to talk about it on a public forum. Everyone doesn't like Phenix and that's just the way it is, just like everyone doesn't like Calstar but they like Seeker. To each his own ya dig:Wink:



A.A very well said great points...I too fish with all rods and blanks from different company, IMO Phenix Rods are excellent product with Jason and Jeff are great people...I personally really like there Elixir blanks and Inshore Assassin for inshore fishing...

[m2cory]

I have in mint condition Phenix IF682-2 (6'2") and IF722-2 (7'2") for sale, both comes with original phenix tubes. $300 each.

pm me your number and let's chat. I'd like to pick up both of em.

[afisherman13]

i was fishing with pie13 when he sets the hook. snap broken iron feather . the look on his face was as he had just lost a loved one . it was the frist to snap. also the man can fish just my 2 cents..

[Troutcz swimbait]

I just talked to Jeff from Phenix to find out what the problem is about iron feathers breaking. This is by far the best trout rod ever made due to its sensitivity there is no other rod out there like it. I have 6 of the iron feathers and never had a problem with them breaking. The only way the rods are breaking is from people reeling in too fast all the way to the tip and it is breaking 2-3 inches off the thin part of the tip. As far as the rod breaking on the fish none of the customers have had any problems with that according to Jeff. The tip is the most sensitive part of the whole rod and that is what makes this rod so unique. Nobody should have any problem with this rod as long you dont reel in too fast all the way to the tip.

[the killa fish taco]

Yeah they are DOPE rods. Just a lil out of my price range. I will stick to my Daiwa Spinmatic rods

[AngryAgent]

I just talked to Jeff from Phenix to find out what the problem is about iron feathers breaking. This is by far the best trout rod ever made due to its sensitivity there is no other rod out there like it. I have 6 of the iron feathers and never had a problem with them breaking. The only way the rods are breaking is from people reeling in too fast all the way to the tip and it is breaking 2-3 inches off the thin part of the tip. As far as the rod breaking on the fish none of the customers have had any problems with that according to Jeff. The tip is the most sensitive part of the whole rod and that is what makes this rod so unique. Nobody should have any problem with this rod as long you dont reel in too fast all the way to the tip.


This is inaccurate. We have had a few customers come in to have their Iron Feathers replaced because they broke while fighting fish. As far as it being the best trout rod there is that is laughable. It is anything but the best trout rod out there and Phenix actually offers a better rod in the Elixir then the Iron feather. I love Phenix rods but I am tired of hearing about how the Iron Feather is the best rod out there for trout fishing. For $400.00 dollars it's not even spined! When you have a rod that is sleeved like the Iron Feather is at the tip it can only load up to where the sleeve stops and if it's not spined then not only is it limited on how it loads because of the sleeve but it also won't go back and forth naturally due to not being spined. It is also a tank, it weighs far too much which takes away from the sensitivity. Frankly I applaude Phenix for trying something new and taking rod blank manufacturing in a new direction because ultimately this is how stuff gets better by R&D trial and error, but this rod is more hype then great trout rod IMO...