Local Pond Bass Fishing

[bowler]

Today i hit up my local pond to do some bass fishing it was off the hook i end up with 23 bass but did not take pic of one of them. They were all caught off a purple worm fly lined. Here is some fish porn.
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[flyforfish21]

go dump like 100 goldfish in there so they can EAT, sad sight too see so many emaciated fish. Good day none-the-less.

Geoff

[bowler]

I know they can fatten up a little. But the i lost a few nicer size ones too.

[Fire Ball]

Most of those bass look skinny and unhealthy. You should definitely put some more baitfish in there.

[goseango]

Those fish are just waiting for the spawn.......gonna cannibalize the fry

[fisherman from long beach]

those fish dont look very good.and kinda look like you pictured the same one like 3 or 4 times.wth

[bowler]

I think i eat to put some Crawdads in there so they have some more food to eat.

[bowler]

those fish dont look very good.and kinda look like you pictured the same one like 3 or 4 times.wth

No they are different fish i know because i took a picture of each one after i caught it.

[carpanglerdude]

Wow, some really decent fish, and some really skinny ones. I thought one I caught today was skinny, those take the cake!

I think I know where that spot is :) Nice job pulling those out of there!
Seriously though, they need some food.

Thanks for the fish porn :)

[socalbikerbro]

those fish look like raisins, all sucked up,

[richaaron]

Those fish must be from a lake in the ghetto. They look tore up from the floor up....

[Stormcrow]

Hey man, if that lake is permanent, go see a local fish store and arrange to buy about 500 crawdads. Should cost you 50 bucks or so. Dump em and start the food chain. You could also arrange to buy mosquito fish too. All are good emergency measures to save your fishin hole.

[CL SmooV]

Those fish must be from a lake in the ghetto. They look tore up from the floor up....

fish in the hood city parks dont even look like that!

hopefully they can rebound. and yep, a recycling food chain definitely needs to be introduced to that dope pond.

cannibal bass isnt a good thing.

[FishinElectrician]

Never seen bass like that. they look sickly as hell. Daaayumn...

[Joshua1983]

Where is this pond @? I wanna catch some bass and my local lake is slow right now.....

[bowler]

Hey man, if that lake is permanent, go see a local fish store and arrange to buy about 500 crawdads. Should cost you 50 bucks or so. Dump em and start the food chain. You could also arrange to buy mosquito fish too. All are good emergency measures to save your fishin hole.
I am going to set up some trap in some local creeks to get the Crawdads.

[fisherman from long beach]

No they are different fish i know because i took a picture of each one after i caught it.
i counted the second fish 4times,come dude who you foolin.

[BIG*GAME*HUNTER]

man, what kinda fish porn is this? it's more like a snuff film....:Twisted:lol, no sneakheads this time around huh?

[BIG*GAME*HUNTER]

good slay though, i would have thrown some eightball crank*baits and tripled that number..

[fishntime]

go dump like 100 goldfish in there so they can EAT, sad sight too see so many emaciated fish. Good day none-the-less.

Geoff

X2 poor fish need food

[Fishinnut]

Fella's

I firmly believe in C/R of bass, but in this case harvesting some of the fish from this pond would not be a bad idea. It's apparent from the pictures that they don't have enough forage to sustain the population of bass that live in that impound. I think that even if you add crawfish and goldfish you will still have a problem. In a case like this "ONLY"!! keeping a few here and there could help turn things around and the fish would be much healthier. Just my thoughts, but hey, I'm not a biologist.

[old pudd fisher]

Fella's

I firmly believe in C/R of bass, but in this case harvesting some of the fish from this pond would not be a bad idea. It's apparent from the pictures that they don't have enough forage to sustain the population of bass that live in that impound. I think that even if you add crawfish and goldfish you will still have a problem. In a case like this "ONLY"!! keeping a few here and there could help turn things around and the fish would be much healthier. Just my thoughts, but hey, I'm not a biologist.
Sounds like it might work.

[fisherman from long beach]

Fella's

I firmly believe in C/R of bass, but in this case harvesting some of the fish from this pond would not be a bad idea. It's apparent from the pictures that they don't have enough forage to sustain the population of bass that live in that impound. I think that even if you add crawfish and goldfish you will still have a problem. In a case like this "ONLY"!! keeping a few here and there could help turn things around and the fish would be much healthier. Just my thoughts, but hey, I'm not a biologist.
i hear you but what are you gonna do with them when you take them,cuz i know i wouldnt want to eat a bass thats sucked up.

[carpanglerdude]

^Put them somewhere else, plenty of little ponds here and there with lots of forage, not enough bass...

Not that I'm suggesting violating any DFG laws, of course. Just thinking out loud.

[bowler]

i counted the second fish 4times,come dude who you foolin.
i was there i and took a picture of everyone to caught. my phone might have made copies.

[Fishinnut]

I'm not sure if I would eat a fish in that state either, but placing them into another pond/lake could work if they survived the transplant. I only suggest that if you do put a fish in another lake or pond just make sure it's a healthy one. These fish on bowlers post don't look too healthy and could have some type of other issues besides just starving. I haven't seen them first hand but before I did something like that I would probably perform a makeshift autopsy on one. I'd check for a number of things like internal and external parasites, abnormal organ features and so forth, because the absolute worst thing we can do as responsible fisherman is expose one of your favorite honey holes and its fish to a group of potential mates that have major problems. That would not be good, I would say that if you did remove a fish from this spot and your not comfortable eating it, I personally know fish do make great plant fertilizer and/or your local cat, raccoon or even a possum will be very appreciative of a free meal. Again, I want to reiterate I "only" suggest harvesting a bass under this particular circumstance and that if you are a true bass fisherman at heart like I am, you will practice Catch and Release when fishing for this species of fish.

[bowler]

man, what kinda fish porn is this? it's more like a snuff film....:Twisted:lol, no sneakheads this time around huh?
there is not snakeheads in this pond

good slay though, i would have thrown some eightball crank*baits and tripled that number..
I would have a lot more but when i set the hook the where on there but they came. I had maybe of 50 hook ups (i losted count) and land them 23 fish. I want to try topwater in there some time to see if there would take it.



I'm not sure if I would eat a fish in that state either, but placing them into another pond/lake could work if they survived the transplant. I only suggest that if you do put a fish in another lake or pond just make sure it's a healthy one. These fish on bowlers post don't look too healthy and could have some type of other issues besides just starving. I haven't seen them first hand but before I did something like that I would probably perform a makeshift autopsy on one. I'd check for a number of things like internal and external parasites, abnormal organ features and so forth, because the absolute worst thing we can do is expose one of your favorite honey holes and its fish to a group of potential mates that have major problems. That would not be good, I would say that if you did take a fish from this spot and your not comfortable eating it, I personally know fish do make great plant fertilizer and/or your local cat, raccoon or even a possum will be very appreciative of a free meal.

This pic of the bass is from the same pond but it was caught of 5 years ago and there was nothing wrong with him. Some one said that they might have let there eggs out of them already. I do not know but i will try to caught some crawdad and but them in the pond so the have some to eat.

[Fishinnut]

Alot of things can happen in five years browler. I've caught fish that have just spawned out and they don't look that way at all. Trust me those fish aren't eating regular and may even have other issues going on we may not be aware of with running test.

[bowler]

Alot of things can happen in five years browler. I've caught fish that have just spawned out and they don't look that way at all. Trust me those fish aren't eating regular and may even have other issues going on we may not be aware of with running test.
I know a lot of thing can happen in five years. I am going to try the crawdad to see if that work. The person that owned the pond think sold the house and he took care of it. Now it is owned by someone else and i think they do not care about the fish in there.

[bowler]

Those fish must be from a lake in the ghetto. They look tore up from the floor up....
Well this bass do not get feed trout like the other bass in lake that have trout plants.

[BIG*GAME*HUNTER]

this guy is from the *wash* they don't get no trout stock...
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this guy is from clear, no trout stock..
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[Fishbones]

they look like aquaduct stripers......poor bass....
that hurts my eyes to see them tweeked out....
please go buy 40 bucks worth of goldfish and feed them ....

[bowler]

What type of food source do them bass have to eat in there. You say it is a wash so how big is it. The pond that i fish has only crappie for them to eat but they are bigger the then some of the bass in the pond. The pond i fish at is .06 miles long by .04 mile wide. there is no steam or any other water source for them to get food in there.

[Fishinnut]

The problem is the number of fish that's in that small impound and not what they are eating. Bowler, as I stated earlier I really suggest that if you do know the owner of that place he allow some of you guys that fish that place to remove some of the fish. If there are crappie in there that are larger then the bass then I suggest you start there and set size limits for harvesting bass. I will say this again, I'm a C/R guy but I also grew up around family members that had their own ponds like this and that's how you build a quality bass pond that can sustain the fish that inhabit it.

And also do what fishbones said and get some type of other food source dropped in there, but I think your looking at more like 4,000.00 worth of gold fish to make any difference. LOL

[BIG*GAME*HUNTER]

true, the wash has an ish load of shads to eat. idk about clear tho..6miles? pm me the spot, let's trade? you can drag out some healthy fatties for a change..

[dgfishin]

good job!pm me the next time out

[Fishinnut]

Yeah, I'd be happy to go over to that spot and fish for some of those big Crappie anytime. Browler I'd willing to bet that if he managed that place with a few fish being removed from time to time and you dropped in some additional forage; that place would turn around really fast.

[bowler]

this was the size of the crappie five years ago.

[Fishinnut]

Nice fish, but have you been thier lately and caught any?

[bowler]

i was there the other day and saw them and the were bigger then that picture of the i got there five years ago.

[BrandonFish]

true those bass kinda do like something else is wrong with them other then the fact they look starved
20 bass on 1 purple worm must meen they are trying to eat anything that moves soon they might start picking on eachother survival of the fittest

[carpanglerdude]

If you get permission from the owner, I would totally help add goldfish or crayfish to the place...problem is, you will definitely need a lot of goldfish. I used to keep a pet bass in a koi pond many years ago, and we would buy 20-30 goldfish for it each week. They would be gone in a couple of days. Imagine what a lake full of starving bass would do to them.

[bowler]

If you get permission from the owner, I would totally help add goldfish or crayfish to the place...problem is, you will definitely need a lot of goldfish. I used to keep a pet bass in a koi pond many years ago, and we would buy 20-30 goldfish for it each week. They would be gone in a couple of days. Imagine what a lake full of starving bass would do to them.
I know a place where i can get a lot a crawdads i have to make the trip out there to get them one day.

[SoCal_LMB]

ok guys, i gotta say something here...

DO NOT stock goldfish. you need to think about the future of the pond and not just fattening up the bass asap so they can be caught. if you stock the goldfish then potentially that pond will be full of giant goldfish because a few always survive. you have to think of introducing species into the foodchain that will sustain the pond over time and not become a problem down the line.

crawdads are definitely a good idea. also, you can net a bunch of shad (more than a couple buckets) and throw them in there. wayyyy better choice than goldfish. its a little more work than just going to the fish store and picking up goldfish but if its your local hole and you want to help it the right way then put shad in there and don't even consider the goldfish.

mosquito fish are also a good idea and are easily available. also, panfish if there aren't any left in there. i assume they were probably in there at some point.

these are all free, you just gotta put in some work. the pond looks like it has potential and looks like it could be a nice little place to fish so i would do it the right way if it was my spot and then i would only tell my close fishing buddies about it :Secret:

don't do anything weird to it like put goldfish in there. just use the foodchain at a typical lake with a healthy bass population as a model... crawdads, shad, panfish, ect.

[Fishinnut]

ok guys, i gotta say something here...

DO NOT stock goldfish. you need to think about the future of the pond and not just fattening up the bass asap so they can be caught. if you stock the goldfish then potentially that pond will be full of giant goldfish because a few always survive. you have to think of introducing species into the foodchain that will sustain the pond over time and not become a problem down the line.

crawdads are definitely a good idea. also, you can net a bunch of shad (more than a couple buckets) and throw them in there. wayyyy better choice than goldfish. its a little more work than just going to the fish store and picking up goldfish but if its your local hole and you want to help it the right way then put shad in there and don't even consider the goldfish.

mosquito fish are also a good idea and are easily available. also, panfish if there aren't any left in there. i assume they were probably in there at some point.

these are all free, you just gotta put in some work. the pond looks like it has potential and looks like it could be a nice little place to fish so i would do it the right way if it was my spot and then i would only tell my close fishing buddies about it :Secret:

don't do anything weird to it like put goldfish in there. just use the foodchain at a typical lake with a healthy bass population as a model... crawdads, shad, panfish, ect.

I totally agree with you and couldn't have summed it up any clearly as too why we should not use goldfish in any lake as a way to feed gamefish or as bait. The long term affects far out weigh the short term fix.

[bowler]

ok guys, i gotta say something here...

DO NOT stock goldfish. you need to think about the future of the pond and not just fattening up the bass asap so they can be caught. if you stock the goldfish then potentially that pond will be full of giant goldfish because a few always survive. you have to think of introducing species into the foodchain that will sustain the pond over time and not become a problem down the line.

crawdads are definitely a good idea. also, you can net a bunch of shad (more than a couple buckets) and throw them in there. wayyyy better choice than goldfish. its a little more work than just going to the fish store and picking up goldfish but if its your local hole and you want to help it the right way then put shad in there and don't even consider the goldfish.

mosquito fish are also a good idea and are easily available. also, panfish if there aren't any left in there. i assume they were probably in there at some point.

these are all free, you just gotta put in some work. the pond looks like it has potential and looks like it could be a nice little place to fish so i would do it the right way if it was my spot and then i would only tell my close fishing buddies about it :Secret:

don't do anything weird to it like put goldfish in there. just use the foodchain at a typical lake with a healthy bass population as a model... crawdads, shad, panfish, ect.
I know not to put goldfish in there. I was think about putting some tadpole in there so there will be frog in there for the bass to eat.

[SoCal_LMB]

I totally agree with you and couldn't have summed it up any clearly as too why we should not use goldfish in any lake as a way to feed gamefish or as bait. The long term affects far out weigh the short term fix.

we definitely think alike man...

good idea about doing some sort of autopsy/disection on the fish from a certain population before introducing a group of those fish those fish into another population. in a small pond like that any disease that gets introduced could do a number on the population quick.


I know not to put goldfish in there. I was think about putting some tadpole in there so there will be frog in there for the bass to eat.

that'll be good too but that won't be enough. i'm suprised there aren't frogs there already. they seem to just show up on there own.

what you want to do is re-establish a self sutaining foodchain in there. half the fish in your pics are malnurished so the population needs to be thinned first. think about it... less fish equals more available food. even in a lake with ample food supply if it is overpoplated the fish will be stunted so Fishinnut is definitely right that it is the exception to the "must always practice C&R" philosophy. thats why guys with their own farm pond keep a few bass sometimes because they need to keep the population within capacity of the pond to keep the population as healthy and fat as possible.

if there's no structure you might want to think about adding some xmas trees, tires or DIY structure. it'll also give the baitfish a place to hide as well so it'll help their populations survive. looks like it would be a cool little pond to tube with a healthy population of bass and crappie in it.

where'd you catch a snakehead? i want to catch one of those on light tackle just to see thats like. they had a couple in laguna way back in the day before anyone cared about them. if you know a spot pm me if you want to let me in on it.

[Stormcrow]

this was the size of the crappie five years ago.


Ohhhh I have fished that place. I caught a HUGE crappie there with a white Underspin one day.

[Stormcrow]

we definitely think alike man...

good idea about doing some sort of autopsy/disection on the fish from a certain population before introducing a group of those fish those fish into another population. in a small pond like that any disease that gets introduced could do a number on the population quick.



that'll be good too but that won't be enough. i'm suprised there aren't frogs there already. they seem to just show up on there own.

what you want to do is re-establish a self sutaining foodchain in there. half the fish in your pics are malnurished so the population needs to be thinned first. think about it... less fish equals more available food. even in a lake with ample food supply if it is overpoplated the fish will be stunted so Fishinnut is definitely right that it is the exception to the "must always practice C&R" philosophy. thats why guys with their own farm pond keep a few bass sometimes because they need to keep the population within capacity of the pond to keep the population as healthy and fat as possible.

if there's no structure you might want to think about adding some xmas trees, tires or DIY structure. it'll also give the baitfish a place to hide as well so it'll help their populations survive. looks like it would be a cool little pond to tube with a healthy population of bass and crappie in it.

where'd you catch a snakehead? i want to catch one of those on light tackle just to see thats like. they had a couple in laguna way back in the day before anyone cared about them. if you know a spot pm me if you want to let me in on it.



NO goldfish, as stated before.

Christmas trees YES

LOTS of CRAWDADS YES (Crawdads are natural detritivores, plus, if you dump about 500 in, many will already be dropping eggs so the primary consumers will now be re-established

Frogs SURE

[bowler]

NO goldfish, as stated before.

Christmas trees YES

LOTS of CRAWDADS YES (Crawdads are natural detritivores, plus, if you dump about 500 in, many will already be dropping eggs so the primary consumers will now be re-established

Frogs SURE

There is already one big kio in the pond and a few carp. There is a lot of cover for bait fish to hide there is rocks on the bottom of the pond and i a few place. There are trees hang over into the water. there is also lily pad in on part of the pond.

[Fishbones]

i only stated to us goldfish as a temp food source....those things are probably dieing off every day...
and i hardly dout that any feeder size goldfish would live and take over the place like pictured....
the bass can barely eat and survive little alone have a feeder live to populate the pond.
obviously it would be wise for long term to stock crawdads,shad,perch.
but at this moment what would be the best and fastest way to help keep these things alive.....goldfish
and thru time and resources the shad and crawdads will be introduced.....geez....these poor things look bad.....feed them now..

[BrandonFish]

guys dont forget the blue gill bass love to eat em im sure those bass in that lake would think of us as gods lol

[bowler]

guys dont forget the blue gill bass love to eat em im sure those bass in that lake would think of us as gods lol

i know i have to go to some lakes near by a get some small bluegills in a bucket and hope i do not get caught doing this and but them in there.

[SoCal_LMB]

There are trees hang over into the water. there is also lily pad in on part of the pond.

sounds like a cool little spot. some others here seem to know where it is but i have no idea, lol. i can't believe a pond with lily pads doesn't already have frogs in it.

and, i hear what some of you are saying about just dumping goldfish in there to get them some emergency food but once the goldfish have all been eaten the original problem is still going to be there. if you want to enjoy the place in the long run then put in the effort and hook it up right. and, its funny because everyone thinks "no way any of the goldfish will survive" but the chances are probably better than you'd think, especially in a pond with different types of structure for them to hide in. believe it or not thats how some of those big goldfish in the city park lakes got there.. they were bait that escaped and survived.

[BIGRED KILLA]

If i had a place like that i would go to the local bait barge get 100 bucks in sardines bring a trash bag and throw them in the water dead they will eat it for sure till you can get it up and going with the other food species.



Bigred

[oscarbassman]

Cant we just call Sarah Palin and ask her to fix this for us? lol

Its sad to see those fish like that man, invest a little money, make them fatties!

[smokinflies]

for not wanting anyone to find your spot, you sure posted many pics of the lake itself. I'm sure a few here are gonna figure out where this place is at.

[Fishbones]

sounds like a cool little spot. some others here seem to know where it is but i have no idea, lol. i can't believe a pond with lily pads doesn't already have frogs in it.

and, i hear what some of you are saying about just dumping goldfish in there to get them some emergency food but once the goldfish have all been eaten the original problem is still going to be there. if you want to enjoy the place in the long run then put in the effort and hook it up right. and, its funny because everyone thinks "no way any of the goldfish will survive" but the chances are probably better than you'd think, especially in a pond with different types of structure for them to hide in. believe it or not thats how some of those big goldfish in the city park lakes got there.. they were bait that escaped and survived.

those goldfish your talking about are more likely to be koi which in is a relative of the goldfish.
most goldfish will not grow to be bigger than 5-10 inches....im sure the ones you saw were bigger and more likely the relative koi.

feed the bass now is all im saying....whatever it is....they need to eat....

[bowler]

no it was a koi i know what they look like it was white.

[BrandonFish]

you can catch blue gill on little tiny pieces of hot dog all day blue gill wont hurt much or at all

[SoCal_LMB]

those goldfish your talking about are more likely to be koi which in is a relative of the goldfish.
most goldfish will not grow to be bigger than 5-10 inches....im sure the ones you saw were bigger and more likely the relative koi.

feed the bass now is all im saying....whatever it is....they need to eat....

fishbones... you're not looking at the bigger picture bro. feeding them with goldfish now is only going to cause a small delay in the decline of the bass population. after all the golfish have been eaten then what? there's still not enough food in there and that's the real problem. $50-$100 in goldfish isn't going to fatten up the bass in there. there's got to be a healthy foodchain going in there that will provide food for them continually.

also,
i definitely know the difference between a goldfish and a koi. a 10" golfish is a giant goldfish. those bass aren't eating 10" goldfish so once they reach that size in that pond it'll add to the problem because they become another competitor for food instead of a forage species. i'm not trying to debate the subject. i know where i stand on the subject.

[bowler]

you can catch blue gill on little tiny pieces of hot dog all day blue gill wont hurt much or at all

I know but you can only keep 25 of them now at a time.

[BrandonFish]

there are thousands of bluegills in little park ponds your not rly keeping them just putting them back into the water

[bowler]

there are thousands of bluegills in little park ponds your not rly keeping them just putting them back into the water

i want to keep them so i can put in this pond so the bass have some thing eat.

[Fishbones]

fishbones... you're not looking at the bigger picture bro. feeding them with goldfish now is only going to cause a small delay in the decline of the bass population. after all the golfish have been eaten then what? there's still not enough food in there and that's the real problem. $50-$100 in goldfish isn't going to fatten up the bass in there. there's got to be a healthy foodchain going in there that will provide food for them continually.

also,
i definitely know the difference between a goldfish and a koi. a 10" golfish is a giant goldfish. those bass aren't eating 10" goldfish so once they reach that size in that pond it'll add to the problem because they become another competitor for food instead of a forage species. i'm not trying to debate the subject. i know where i stand on the subject.

And untill bowler can start re introducing this food chain its a start untill they can get there natural source of food....its a start....
bro ...look at those bass....there probably dieing off everyday....i dont care what it is...just feed them is all im saying...
pelet fish food,wholesale live crawdads, fresh dead frozen shad, Nightcrawlers,feeded goldfish..its going to take alot more time and labor to catch all the needed crawdads,bluegill,shad to really make the difference and turn that pond around than one thinks.
so untill then a few hundred goldfish will not hurt this place....i have a similar pond in my backyard...its not managed or taken care of and it has bass and catfish in it...... before i introduced the bluegill,crawdads,golbies to it....i helped feed them with bags of goldfish.....and its been 7 years now and i can tell you....there are no more goldfish in it......
alls im saying ...is its better than nothing there getting now....


it would take a feeder goldfish more than 15+years to even reach 10"s

[bowler]

And untill bowler can start re introducing this food chain its a start untill they can get there natural source of food....its a start....
bro ...look at those bass....there probably dieing off everyday....i dont care what it is...just feed them is all im saying...
pelet fish food,wholesale live crawdads, fresh dead frozen shad, Nightcrawlers,feeded goldfish..its going to take alot more time and labor to catch all the needed crawdads,bluegill,shad to really make the difference and turn that pond around than one thinks.
so untill then a few hundred goldfish will not hurt this place....i have a similar pond in my backyard...its not managed or taken care of and it has bass and catfish in it...... before i introduced the bluegill,crawdads,golbies to it....i helped feed them with bags of goldfish.....and its been 7 years now and i can tell you....there are no more goldfish in it......
alls im saying ...is its better than nothing there getting now....


it would take a feeder goldfish more than 15+years to even reach 10"s
OK like look at this way, look a Bullfrog there are not native to California. They where brought over here for frog legs but it take a Bullfrog 2 years till it is ready for frog legs. So the people that had them did not want to wait so them let them go. Now look at how many Bullfrogs are here and they eat everything. So why would i put something in a place that never had them before. I know place never my house that have a lot of crawdads that i can get for the pond.

[BrandonFish]

And untill bowler can start re introducing this food chain its a start untill they can get there natural source of food....its a start....
bro ...look at those bass....there probably dieing off everyday....i dont care what it is...just feed them is all im saying...
pelet fish food,wholesale live crawdads, fresh dead frozen shad, Nightcrawlers,feeded goldfish..its going to take alot more time and labor to catch all the needed crawdads,bluegill,shad to really make the difference and turn that pond around than one thinks.
so untill then a few hundred goldfish will not hurt this place....i have a similar pond in my backyard...its not managed or taken care of and it has bass and catfish in it...... before i introduced the bluegill,crawdads,golbies to it....i helped feed them with bags of goldfish.....and its been 7 years now and i can tell you....there are no more goldfish in it......
alls im saying ...is its better than nothing there getting now....


it would take a feeder goldfish more than 15+years to even reach 10"s

he has a point those bass may just be dieng off every day because of the lack of food a few hundred feeder goldfish isnt gonna hirt it will be putting food inside of the bass you caught and only get bigger

bowler i know your trying to get them into the water just not trying to say you are going to...

[Fishbones]

OK like look at this way, look a Bullfrog there are not native to California. They where brought over here for frog legs but it take a Bullfrog 2 years till it is ready for frog legs. So the people that had them did not want to wait so them let them go. Now look at how many Bullfrogs are here and they eat everything. So why would i put something in a place that never had them before. I know place never my house that have a lot of crawdads that i can get for the pond.

Good luck with your pond......
half your fish will be dead by the time you get a completely running eco system going again
like ive said before ive already been in this situation and know what will work....but its your pond...


half the population of california fish is from another state or country.....
should we take them all out cuz there not native either...

Here is a list of all non native fish of california......should we remove them all....

American Shad
Alosa sapidissima
Non-Native

Black Bullhead
Ameiurus melas
Non-Native

Black Crappie
Pomoxis nigromaculatus
Non-Native

Blue Catfish
Ictalurus furcatus
Non-Native

Blue Tilapia
Oreochromis aureus
Non-Native

Bluegill
Lepomis macrochirus
Non-Native

Brook Stickleback
Culaea inconstans
Non-Native

Brook Trout
Salvelinus fontinalis
Non-Native

Brown Bullhead
Ameiurus nebulosus
Non-Native

Brown Trout
Salmo trutta
Non-Native

Channel Catfish
Ictalurus punctatus
Non-Native

Common Carp
Cyprinus carpio
Non-Native

Fathead Minnow
Pimephales promelas
Non-Native

Flathead Catfish
Pylodictis olivaris
Non-Native

Golden Shiner
Notemigonus crysoleucas
Non-Native

Goldfish
Carassius auratus
Non-Native

Grass Carp
Ctenopharyngodon idella
Non-Native

Green Sunfish
Lepomis cyanellus
Non-Native

Kokanee (Sockeye Salmon)
Oncorhynchus nerka
Non-Native

Lake Trout
Salvelinus namaycush
Non-Native

Largemouth Bass
Micropterus salmoides
Non-Native

Mississippi Silverside
Menidia beryllina
Non-Native

Mozambique Tilapia
Oreochromis mossambicus
Non-Native

Nile Tilapia
Oreochromis niloticus
Non-Native

Northern Pike
Esox lucius
Non-Native

Red Shiner
Cyprinella lutrensis
Non-Native

Redbelly Tilapia
Tilapia zillii
Non-Native

Redear Sunfish
Lepomis microlophus
Non-Native

Redeye Bass
Micropterus coosae
Non-Native

Smallmouth Bass
Micropterus dolomieu
Non-Native

Spotted Bass
Micropterus punctulatus
Non-Native

Striped Bass
Morone saxatilis
Non-Native


Tench
Tinca tinca
Non-Native

Threadfin Shad
Dorosoma petenense
Non-Native

Western Mosquitofish
Gambusia affinis
Non-Native

White Bass
Morone chrysops
Non-Native

White Catfish
Ameiurus catus
Non-Native

White Crappie
Pomoxis annularis
Non-Native

Yellow Bullhead
Ameiurus natalis
Non-Native

Yellow Perch
Perca flavescens
Non-Native

Yellowfin Goby
Acanthogobius flavimanus
Non-Native

just trying to help........fishbones

[SoCal_LMB]

ok, of course, you guys can do what you want with the place but if bass are dying off due to lack of food then thats mother natures way of thinning out the numbers so that there will be more food in the long run for the stronger healthier fish that survive.

i mean.. there have been some good alternative suggestions to goldfish in this thread but some of you want to keep insisting on goldfish, lol.. acting like a half a days supply of goldfish is going to help the bass population in there.

dedicate 24hrs or 1 weekend to catching some shad and crawdads, maybe a bucket or 2 of small bluegill and there's a temporary food source and a start of a recycling foodchain. do that a few more times and you're on your way to catching chunks out of there instead of those cracked out bass.

[Fishbones]

ok, of course, you guys can do what you want with the place but if bass are dying off due to lack of food then thats mother natures way of thinning out the numbers so that there will be more food in the long run for the stronger healthier fish that survive.

i mean.. there have been some good alternative suggestions to goldfish in this thread but some of you want to keep insisting on goldfish, lol.. acting like a half a days supply of goldfish is going to help the bass population in there.

dedicate 24hrs or 1 weekend to catching some shad and crawdads, maybe a bucket or 2 of small bluegill and there's a temporary food source and a start of a recycling foodchain. do that a few more times and you're on your way to catching chunks out of there instead of those cracked out bass.

what i use to do is feed the bass the goldfish and then a hour or two later put in the harvested crawdads and bluegill that way they have a chance to find there spots and hide and dont get eatin by the bass right when you put them in....after some time you will have a good population of crawdads and bluegill and the goldfish will no longer need to be used...but this does take a while to do...and to this day there are no more goldfish in my pond.

[BrandonFish]

8 buckets of 2 inch bluegill would do it = p how big is your pond fishbones?

[Fishbones]

8 buckets of 2 inch bluegill would do it = p how big is your pond fishbones?

its a ruff estimation of 150feet wide by 250feet long....its kinda nice....and its private...which makes it priceless!!!

[BrandonFish]

WoooOOoooW jealousy sets in >.> thats sweet ima have to come fish it lol
you make it your self??

[Fishbones]

nope ....i found it....and just helped it out a little with some tlc.....it was neglected....alot....

[BrandonFish]

finding something like that is like winning the lottery lol

[carpanglerdude]

Whoa, this thread has really taken off.

fishbones, you should post some pics of the fish from your pond sometime :)

[Fishbones]

i dont really take my camera there.....but i have this pic of a fat catfish i got out of it bout a year ago....
http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r428/AROCK1_photos/imagejpeg_2_2.jpg

my 91 year old grandpa hooked up to a bass..
http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r428/AROCK1_photos/485975605_1704820644_463213714_1264.jpg
http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r428/AROCK1_photos/485974989_1704818353_463213095_1264.jpg

me and my gramps tagg teaming the bass....
http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r428/AROCK1_photos/485975598_1704820622_463213703_1-1.jpg

[bowler]

nice catfish.

[BrandonFish]

thats sweet and you have it all to your self >.> nice cats

[SoCal_LMB]

boy, do i miss fishing with my gramps :!!!:

[Fishbones]

boy, do i miss fishing with my gramps :!!!:

Hey SoCal_LMB....sorry bro....i feel you ... my gramps is starting to slow and i chairish all memories
with my gramps....

[old pudd fisher]

Hey SoCal_LMB....sorry bro....i feel you ... my gramps is starting to slow and i chairish all memories
with my gramps....

Hey SoCal-LMB and fishbones......It's all about good times and memories my dad is 95 now and I have to help him out with every day stuff. He is in a walker now and can't fish anymore just to hard for him. He would take me to the pudd when I was a kid.....I guess thats why I love the pudd so much and every fish a catch is for him......I still remember that first fishing day with him, It was my best one ever.