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Nitro
11-18-2009, 03:24 PM
I typically fish Lake Perris and I was thinking about trying to fish deeper water using spoons or reaction type baits. Is this a good idea or a waste of money? Are spoons effective this time of the year? I'd greatly appreciate any advice provided. http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

smokehound
11-18-2009, 03:32 PM
Spoons are great! Dont use them in areas prone to snags unless you are very skilled with finesse.


Ive caught dozens of different species with a plain silver kastmaster. They work great for trout.

Panthermartins will work great too.


Roostertails work for bass, and panfish.


Bass will strike them too, especially in spring when the water is warming up.

STEVE IN SOCAL
11-18-2009, 05:03 PM
Are you vertically jigging, casting and retrieving, or trolling?

duce
11-18-2009, 06:46 PM
spoons ar awsome this time of year! I hooked up a 7#er with Pete Marino at perris on a jig! Hit up Pete Marino. He does tons of spoon fishing. Hes a cool guy too, shoot him a PM for some advice! He will put u on the fish! He has every time for me:Big Grin:

Bassnman Mike
11-18-2009, 07:01 PM
Spooning is a very effective technique, especially during winter time

Nitro
11-18-2009, 08:31 PM
Are you vertically jigging, casting and retrieving, or trolling?

Mostly vertically jigging and some casting and retrieving.

Nitro
11-18-2009, 08:40 PM
Thanks for the advice I greatly appreciate it!!

Nitro
11-18-2009, 08:42 PM
spoons ar awsome this time of year! I hooked up a 7#er with Pete Marino at perris on a jig! Hit up Pete Marino. He does tons of spoon fishing. Hes a cool guy too, shoot him a PM for some advice! He will put u on the fish! He has every time for me:Big Grin:

Thanks for the advice Duce!! I went ahead and sent Pete Marino a PM like you said and I'm interested to see what his response will be.

Socal Bassman
11-18-2009, 09:05 PM
Spoons can be very effective this time of year for bass. The key is finding the right fish. By that, I mean you have to find active fish and not suspended or inactive fish. I like using Rapala ice jigs and 1/4oz. Kastmasters for vertical jigging. I've even caught bass using a 1/8oz. Kastmaster when fishing for trout.

A bunch of inactive fish.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk264/Socal_Bassman/Boringfish.jpg


Active fish feeding.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk264/Socal_Bassman/Activefish.jpg


This is just chaos. To not drop a spoon here would be crazy.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk264/Socal_Bassman/Feedingfish2.jpg

duce
11-18-2009, 09:11 PM
Thanks for the advice Duce!! I went ahead and sent Pete Marino a PM like you said and I'm interested to see what his response will be.

listen to the man he knows his shiznit!

duce
11-18-2009, 09:13 PM
Spoons can be very effective this time of year for bass. The key is finding the right fish. By that, I mean you have to find active fish and not suspended or inactive fish. I like using Rapala ice jigs and 1/4oz. Kastmasters for vertical jigging. I've even caught bass using a 1/8oz. Kastmaster when fishing for trout.

A bunch of inactive fish.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk264/Socal_Bassman/Boringfish.jpg


Active fish feeding.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk264/Socal_Bassman/Activefish.jpg


This is just chaos. To not drop a spoon here would be crazy.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk264/Socal_Bassman/Feedingfish2.jpg


me likey #3:Big Grin: Wish I was there!

Juventino
11-18-2009, 09:17 PM
i just started using kastmasters for trout and they work

Nitro
11-18-2009, 10:50 PM
Spoons can be very effective this time of year for bass. The key is finding the right fish. By that, I mean you have to find active fish and not suspended or inactive fish. I like using Rapala ice jigs and 1/4oz. Kastmasters for vertical jigging. I've even caught bass using a 1/8oz. Kastmaster when fishing for trout.

A bunch of inactive fish.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk264/Socal_Bassman/Boringfish.jpg


Active fish feeding.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk264/Socal_Bassman/Activefish.jpg


This is just chaos. To not drop a spoon here would be crazy.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk264/Socal_Bassman/Feedingfish2.jpg

Wow, socal bassman thanks so much for the info and the images. I'm really trying to learn how to fully utilize the finder and sometimes it's hard to tell what's going on. The spoons you mentioned were all relatively light weight would you ever use anything heavier?

bblbasser
11-19-2009, 05:52 AM
Like said in previous posts, you're missing out if you don't spoon at this time of year. It's good to have different kinds (sometimes the fish prefer one over another) and sizes (more efficient to fish heavier spoons in deeper water) in your arsenal. In addition to the kastmaster, I have GREAT fishing with megabait spoons (3/4 oz to 1 1/4 if fishing deeper than 30 or 35 feet) and braid spoons too. Don't be afraid to try a big flutter spoon (lake fork or strike king 5 1/2 inches long) if the fish aren't really on the bait but in areas where the bait is. In case you don't know how to fish flutter spoons, you just cast em out on a point or steep drop or where fish are scattered but not on balls of bait, let it sink to the bottom, and rip it off the bottom and follow it back down with your rod tip. At times they really eat it! Really easy to shake spoons free if you snag rock, a bit tougher if you snag wood. If you fish a body of water that has stripers in it, don't be surprised if you hook em on a spoon, especially after you just gave up on the lift and drop and start fast winding it back to the boat. Also, if you see fish up on bait (boilin' around) and can't get em to bit on traditional methods, flip a spoon at em and put it in gear as soon as it hits the water and jerk it, let it sink, repeating without winding much line (if any at all) working it through the fish in a pendulum fashion (gets deeper as it works back toward the boat). Iv'e had many times when that's the only thing they'll bite, (both lmb and striper). Good luck, Scott

Nitro
11-19-2009, 02:45 PM
Scott, thanks so much for the advice!! I was actually wondering about using larger spoons especially in deeper water. Take care!!



Like said in previous posts, you're missing out if you don't spoon at this time of year. It's good to have different kinds (sometimes the fish prefer one over another) and sizes (more efficient to fish heavier spoons in deeper water) in your arsenal. In addition to the kastmaster, I have GREAT fishing with megabait spoons (3/4 oz to 1 1/4 if fishing deeper than 30 or 35 feet) and braid spoons too. Don't be afraid to try a big flutter spoon (lake fork or strike king 5 1/2 inches long) if the fish aren't really on the bait but in areas where the bait is. In case you don't know how to fish flutter spoons, you just cast em out on a point or steep drop or where fish are scattered but not on balls of bait, let it sink to the bottom, and rip it off the bottom and follow it back down with your rod tip. At times they really eat it! Really easy to shake spoons free if you snag rock, a bit tougher if you snag wood. If you fish a body of water that has stripers in it, don't be surprised if you hook em on a spoon, especially after you just gave up on the lift and drop and start fast winding it back to the boat. Also, if you see fish up on bait (boilin' around) and can't get em to bit on traditional methods, flip a spoon at em and put it in gear as soon as it hits the water and jerk it, let it sink, repeating without winding much line (if any at all) working it through the fish in a pendulum fashion (gets deeper as it works back toward the boat). Iv'e had many times when that's the only thing they'll bite, (both lmb and striper). Good luck, Scott