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spoon2610
09-15-2009, 11:38 AM
Im trying to catch Crappie at Elsinore but no luck........ any help pls...

goodguy
09-15-2009, 11:45 AM
Yeah, go somewhere else... Elsinore has very little fish left that didn't die off... I'd imagine the fish that are in there aren't in a biting mood for a while...

Simplyeman
09-15-2009, 01:09 PM
PM Seng for both canyan and Elsinore....he's the man you need to talk to.

dcashley84
09-15-2009, 03:36 PM
i live in elsinore and smelled the stink of dead fish..but they where mostly shad that died i think. didnt really see to many big fish. i havent fished elsinore that much but i here if you know where to go then its a good place... wish i knew where to go.. i have a boat so maybe one day a master will show me...

spoon2610
09-15-2009, 04:05 PM
I will do that.

spoon2610
09-15-2009, 04:35 PM
i live in elsinore and smelled the stink of dead fish..but they where mostly shad that died i think. didnt really see to many big fish. i havent fished elsinore that much but i here if you know where to go then its a good place... wish i knew where to go.. i have a boat so maybe one day a master will show me...

I heard that trolling deep for crappie is good there.

Fisherman57
09-15-2009, 07:16 PM
from 7/27/09

As many as 1 million fish suffocate at Lake Elsinore!


http://fishinghotpage.com/users/tmp3/fish28bfdb_400.jpg


Hundreds of thousands of fish washed ashore at Lake Elsinore in a die-off Sunday that a state biologist said was caused by an oxygen-diminishing algae bloom nourished by triple-digit temperatures.

The die-off comes as the city and the Lake Elsinore and San Jacinto Watersheds Authority are spending up to $11,000 to promote fishing in the lake through the airing of a 30-minute video on Fox Sports West. The city's share is $7,500.

Between 500,000 and 1 million thumb-size shad and about 6,000 larger fish such as carp and crappie died, Pat Kilroy, director of Lake and Aquatic Resources for Lake Elsinore, said Monday.

"It appears to have subsided at this time," Kilroy said.

It is the first major die-off at the lake since 80 tons of fish perished in 2002 from lack of oxygen and low water levels. In 1998, hundreds of thousands of shad washed up dead. In 1997, about 30 tons of shad died. It's also the first large die-off since the Watersheds Authority two years ago installed an aeration system that pumps air into the lake and installed mixing fans to increase oxygen levels throughout the lake.

Kilroy said he saw signs Monday that the die-off was over.

"Oxygen levels are at their lowest early in the morning," he said. "You'll see fish at the surface gulping for air. There were no fish at the surface."

City crews were scooping up the fish Monday. The fishing areas and beaches are expected to be clear by today, Kilroy said.

The fish are being taken to the El Sobrante Landfill southeast of Corona, said Mark Dennis, a spokesman for the city of Lake Elsinore.

While the number of dead fish appears to be high, Kilroy said, they represent a small percentage of the fish in the lake. The lake holds about 10,000 shad per acre of surface area, Kilroy said. There are 50 to 100 larger fish per acre. The lake's surface area is about 3,000 acres.

Scientists are studying the lake's oxygen and algae levels to determine exactly what caused the die-off, said Mark Norton, administrator for the Watersheds Authority.

The algae bloom and the temperatures over 100 degrees the past few days, appear to be the likely culprits.

Tim Hovey, a fish and game biologist, said plantlike algae blooms are caused by the introduction of nutrients such as phosphorous into the water. In Lake Elsinore's case, it comes from the San Jacinto Mountains, according to the Watersheds Authority. Carp and other large fish at the bottom of the lake stir up nutrients, which feed the algae, which grows better as water temperature increases. As the algae eventually die, it lowers the oxygen levels that fish need to survive.

"I'd say the fish died from low oxygen levels, mostly because of the hot days and warm nights," Kilroy said.

Norton said he believes the deaths would have been greater had the Watersheds Authority not installed the aeration system and mixing fans.

The system was operating Sunday, Kilroy said.

"It had been in operation 27 of the last 72 hours," Kilroy said.
http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/s...8.41f9328.html (http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_S_fish28.41f9328.html)

BingJr
09-15-2009, 09:00 PM
This is a crying shame. This lake was firmly on the come back and the wiper was really bringing this lake back to life. Now.... mismanagement, mismanagement dead fish dead fish.

WaterBound
09-16-2009, 01:34 AM
I got the donut, or doughnut, connection and fish from a private beach on the north west side of the lake. There are plenty of fish there! I don't know about the crappie, but wipers and catfish are still in this lake. You need LIVE shad. I still am having trouble catching carp on the fly but they sure love peanut butter. Dusk & dawn are the best times. Weekends tend to suck whenever there are too many private boaters out. Your best bet is to get to know some of the locals who own beach front property. Those areas have far less pressure and produce better results. As far as Canyon Lake is concerned that place is FULL of fish that get washed into Lake Elsinore every winter. Just don't eat them because of all the disgusting runoff. Good Luck!

tall tales
09-16-2009, 01:47 PM
i hope you all keep thinking elsinore is dead. my dirty lil secret is alive and well. fished last sunday for 6 bass up to 2lbs. was only there for 2 hours. pretty funny though was out tuning up my buddies jet boat. here we are in a 400horse jet boat with a trolling motor. whatever it takes to get my fix. this time of year if your fishin the bank forget about it. just carp except a couple of secrets. just pm me. TT

Khmerfishing
09-16-2009, 04:03 PM
talking about Elsinore about a month or so ago I saw a group of 3 catching something there that I never seen , literally never saw it! Cus whatever they was catching they didnt show it..weird... Its like they were noodling but they werent catching fish they were catching something else by the buckets...I wonder if anybody else saw something similar?

KhmerF

tall tales
09-16-2009, 05:48 PM
alot of stuff happens at the dirty lil secret

ThemBastards
09-20-2009, 06:04 PM
talking about Elsinore about a month or so ago I saw a group of 3 catching something there that I never seen , literally never saw it! Cus whatever they was catching they didnt show it..weird... Its like they were noodling but they werent catching fish they were catching something else by the buckets...I wonder if anybody else saw something similar?

KhmerF

Must have been the fabled IE Methfish.

vortec_cruiser
09-20-2009, 08:02 PM
Do they allow float tubes?