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HBJapo
08-05-2008, 01:48 PM
http://www.ocregister.com/video/uservideo/index.php?bcpid=1127703988&bclid=1133451546&bctid=1704108925

Japo :Envious:

supasportkid
08-05-2008, 10:52 PM
cOOOOOL!!!

steve092
08-06-2008, 10:05 AM
:Cool: vid!

sh1nynewlove
08-06-2008, 10:42 AM
nice video.. those yellow tail look delicious:LOL:

SAMIAM
08-07-2008, 05:06 AM
Fillet and release.

Total, negligent, nature disregarding, unthinking, uneducated, red state-like, unsympathetic idiots.

tacklejunkie
08-07-2008, 07:43 AM
Fillet and release.

Total, negligent, nature disregarding, unthinking, uneducated, red state-like, unsympathetic idiots.

I'd have to agree.
I don't think I'd go on one of those boats. They gaff every fish. No release. How would I land something like that without a gaff? I wouldn't want like 20lbs of fish in the freezer but it sure would be cool to catch one.

Same thing with those boats that go out on 1/2 and 3/4 days and bring home every tiny red fish they possibly can..

supasportkid
08-07-2008, 10:33 AM
the 1/2 and 3/4 day trips have size and total fish kept limits. and also it is up to you if you want to keep, or catch n release. you dont need a gaff for most sand/calico bass and some cuda.

tacklejunkie
08-07-2008, 11:30 AM
the 1/2 and 3/4 day trips have size and total fish kept limits. and also it is up to you if you want to keep, or catch n release. you dont need a gaff for most sand/calico bass and some cuda.

Do they have C&R YT trips? :Envious: I wouldn't have any use for a fish that large.

bassmeister
08-07-2008, 01:32 PM
Fillet and release.

Total, negligent, nature disregarding, unthinking, uneducated, red state-like, unsympathetic idiots.

I bet you'd pass out if you saw what the seiners do to our fisheries. Are you sure you should be on a fishing network? Those guys didn't do anything but go out and catch some fish and it wasn't all that many by any means.

HBJapo
08-07-2008, 03:24 PM
I bet you'd pass out if you saw what the seiners do to our fisheries. Are you sure you should be on a fishing network? Those guys didn't do anything but go out and catch some fish and it wasn't all that many by any means.


True dat! I would take that much fish. I work with 80+ people, an easy 20 (if not more) would love some fresh fish.

Japo :Envious:

SAMIAM
08-07-2008, 03:38 PM
I bet you'd pass out if you saw what the seiners do to our fisheries. Are you sure you should be on a fishing network? Those guys didn't do anything but go out and catch some fish and it wasn't all that many by any means.

That is always the excuse the guys who kill make. Sure, by yourself it doesn't make a dent. But multiply yourself by the thousands, which is the true scenario, and it does make a dent.

I'm just asking recreational fisherman to just have some consideration for life and species when they do what they do every weekend.

Take two yellowtail instead of five. 1 halibut instead of three. Use a net instead of a gaff and respect life instead of being killers who just want to overload their freezers and have so much fish they are donating it away to the neighborhood.

HBJapo
08-07-2008, 03:46 PM
That is always the excuse the guys who kill make. Sure, by yourself it doesn't make a dent. But multiply yourself by the thousands, which is the true scenario, and it does make a dent.

I'm just asking recreational fisherman to just have some consideration for life and species when they do what they do every weekend.

Take two yellowtail instead of five. 1 halibut instead of three. Use a net instead of a gaff and respect life instead of being killers who just want to overload their freezers and have so much fish they are donating it away to the neighborhood.

SAMIAM,

As you are here longer you will find that most of us are very loyal to and respectful of the environment and mother nature. I wage this same discussion in regards to LMB and fishing in general. However, these fish in discussion are still quite abundant. Commercial fishermen are the ones who take the most fish. I believe that we are merely voicing the basic principle of fishing. Take what will be eaten, throw the rest back. If we were conversing about salmon, then I believe that we are more than on the same page as you.

Japo :Envious:

tacklejunkie
08-07-2008, 03:48 PM
You guys are lucky you know people who will take the fish. I couldn't pawn off fresh fish on anyone I know so taking home big fish is out of the question. I don't even really like eating fish very much. Not a single person I've ever asked has actually wanted fish that I have caught besides people fishing near me that didn't catch anything or want to add more to their catch.

I can imagine stuffing a YT in someone else's bag when they weren't looking though. :LOL:

HBJapo
08-07-2008, 04:51 PM
You guys are lucky you know people who will take the fish. I couldn't pawn off fresh fish on anyone I know so taking home big fish is out of the question. I don't even really like eating fish very much. Not a single person I've ever asked has actually wanted fish that I have caught besides people fishing near me that didn't catch anything or want to add more to their catch.

I can imagine stuffing a YT in someone else's bag when they weren't looking though. :LOL:

Now that, TJ, would be really :Cool:. Try and find my bag please. :Wink: I'll definitely say that I know the balance of peeps that make up for those that don't want/like fish. I am a HUGE fish eater, in contrast, especially sushi. I just won't eat anything that I catch from our lakes (except for trout that you are required to take).

Japo :Envious:

SAMIAM
08-08-2008, 04:12 PM
SAMIAM,

As you are here longer you will find that most of us are very loyal to and respectful of the environment and mother nature. I wage this same discussion in regards to LMB and fishing in general. However, these fish in discussion are still quite abundant. Commercial fishermen are the ones who take the most fish. I believe that we are merely voicing the basic principle of fishing. Take what will be eaten, throw the rest back. If we were conversing about salmon, then I believe that we are more than on the same page as you.

Japo :Envious:


So you think two guys going out on their boats and taking home 10 yellow tail is taking what they will eat and throwing back the rest?

I think it's senseless slaughter and wanting to brag on the internet.

Oh well, you're giving the same excuse.... commercials do more harm.

If indeed that were the case, (which it isn't because there are so many PB'ers and sport boats doing the same thing every day which adds up-there have been studies shown that sport caught fish delete more fish stock for certain species than the commercials), does it make it right to excuse what you are doing because somebody else is doing it in much greater scale?

I think not.

By the way I've been lurking this site as well as Allcoast.com since 2005 and I read most of the reports and see the same guys who go out every week and take home 20 to 50 fish every weekend. These are the guys who put up photo-esssays of their trip. They are vastly outnumbered by the guys who take an equal amount of fish but do not do the photo essay on the internet. One can only imagine. Take 2 yellowtail instead of five. Take 1 halibut instead of 3. 1 WSB instead of 3. Repeat every week. Chance are, you own some rods, own a boat, and enjoy the sport, the time you go fishing will not be your last time and especially in the peak season.

Let the fish live, to fight another day and to go make more fishies. That is not a hard thing to do.

HBJapo
08-08-2008, 04:39 PM
So you think two guys going out on their boats and taking home 10 yellow tail is taking what they will eat and throwing back the rest?

I think it's senseless slaughter and wanting to brag on the internet.

Oh well, you're giving the same excuse.... commercials do more harm.

If indeed that were the case, (which it isn't because there are so many PB'ers and sport boats doing the same thing every day which adds up-there have been studies shown that sport caught fish delete more fish stock for certain species than the commercials), does it make it right to excuse what you are doing because somebody else is doing it in much greater scale?

I think not.

By the way I've been lurking this site as well as Allcoast.com since 2005 and I read most of the reports and see the same guys who go out every week and take home 20 to 50 fish every weekend. These are the guys who put up photo-esssays of their trip. They are vastly outnumbered by the guys who take an equal amount of fish but do not do the photo essay on the internet. One can only imagine. Take 2 yellowtail instead of five. Take 1 halibut instead of 3. 1 WSB instead of 3. Repeat every week. Chance are, you own some rods, own a boat, and enjoy the sport, the time you go fishing will not be your last time and especially in the peak season.

Let the fish live, to fight another day and to go make more fishies. That is not a hard thing to do.

O.K. I was being nice, but you are a tool. You ramble on like it's your job and duty to play devil's advocate. Your negative attitude sucks. You are one of those "I'm right at any cost", I've met a lifetime of you......and I thought that the jerk store was running out of jerks. How dare you include me in your vast pointless generalizations (ex: I do NOT own a boat)? I don't even ocean fish, anymore (I CNR ALL freshwater fish). I am merely making a statement. Disagree with me if you like, but don't include me in your baseless generalizations. Further, what is your obsession with everyone needing to get attention on this site and brag? That is the furthest thing from most of our minds. As I prevoiusly stated, a majority of us repect the resources we share.

You, dear sir, have what we call the "lurker mentality". Grow up and you'll do yourself a favor.

Japo :Envious:

bassmeister
08-10-2008, 03:03 PM
O.K. I was being nice, but you are a tool. You ramble on like it's your job and duty to play devil's advocate. Your negative attitude sucks. You are one of those "I'm right at any cost", I've met a lifetime of you......and I thought that the jerk store was running out of jerks. How dare you include me in your vast pointless generalizations (ex: I do NOT own a boat)? I don't even ocean fish, anymore (I CNR ALL freshwater fish). I am merely making a statement. Disagree with me if you like, but don't include me in your baseless generalizations. Further, what is your obsession with everyone needing to get attention on this site and brag? That is the furthest thing from most of our minds. As I prevoiusly stated, a majority of us repect the resources we share.

You, dear sir, have what we call the "lurker mentality". Grow up and you'll do yourself a favor.

Japo :Envious:All I can say at this point is that sam i am should just stay home and watch the t.v. and let us fisherman do our jobs

one_leg
08-10-2008, 10:08 PM
So you think two guys going out on their boats and taking home 10 yellow tail is taking what they will eat and throwing back the rest?

I think it's senseless slaughter and wanting to brag on the internet.

Oh well, you're giving the same excuse.... commercials do more harm.

If indeed that were the case, (which it isn't because there are so many PB'ers and sport boats doing the same thing every daywhich adds up-there have been studies shown that sport caught fish delete more fish stock for certain species than the commercials), does it make it right to excuse what you are doing because somebody else is doing it in much greater scale?

I think not.

By the way I've been lurking this site as well as Allcoast.com since 2005 and I read most of the reports and see the same guys who go out every week and take home 20 to 50 fish every weekend. These are the guys who put up photo-esssays of their trip. They are vastly outnumbered by the guys who take an equal amount of fish but do not do the photo essay on the internet. One can only imagine. Take 2 yellowtail instead of five. Take 1 halibut instead of 3. 1 WSB instead of 3. Repeat every week. Chance are, you own some rods, own a boat, and enjoy the sport, the time you go fishing will not be your last time and especially in the peak season.

Let the fish live, to fight another day and to go make more fishies. That is not a hard thing to do.

The PB'ers and sport boats don't do it "every day" as you suggest.

Am I wrong to assume that it stands to reason that certain fish stocks might be affected more by PB'ers than commercials if there is limited commercial demand for the product?


It sounds like you do a lot of imagining when it comes to the numbers of anglers that are out there wreaking havoc on the oceans bounty.

BIGRED KILLA
08-11-2008, 01:45 AM
SAMIAM i Would love to see the reaction on your face and put it on you tube after you see my two fish freezers i kill every thing i try to take every thing to the limit and what is this you call cpr i like cpfr.We are doing a Favor Samiam buy killing the big fish we can let the sardines and other small bait fish live a wonderful life doesn't that make you happy.You have to suck it up like a man no one will listen to you cry people will follow the rules and the limits i Cpr a lot of fish but if there are exotics on the chew come on who wouldn't keep a couple to last the year.



p.s how long have you been working at sea world for.








Bigred Killa

gavin310
08-12-2008, 02:40 PM
SAMIAM, there are fisherman who eat what they catch, and fisherman who don't. It's very hard to participate in a fishing community if you don't accept both types.

one_leg
08-12-2008, 02:44 PM
SAMIAM i Would love to see the reaction on your face and put it on you tube after you see my two fish freezers i kill every thing i try to take every thing to the limit and what is this you call cpr i like cpfr.We are doing a Favor Samiam buy killing the big fish we can let the sardines and other small bait fish live a wonderful life doesn't that make you happy.You have to suck it up like a man no one will listen to you cry people will follow the rules and the limits i Cpr a lot of fish but if there are exotics on the chew come on who wouldn't keep a couple to last the year.



p.s how long have you been working at sea world for.








Bigred Killa

Well said, BIGRED.........:LOL: Kill em all for the sake of the Chovies.

Adam_B.
08-12-2008, 04:35 PM
If you complain more than twice, then its BITCHING! Count'em up...



1...


Fillet and release.

Total, negligent, nature disregarding, unthinking, uneducated, red state-like, unsympathetic idiots.

2...


That is always the excuse the guys who kill make. Sure, by yourself it doesn't make a dent. But multiply yourself by the thousands, which is the true scenario, and it does make a dent.

I'm just asking recreational fisherman to just have some consideration for life and species when they do what they do every weekend.

Take two yellowtail instead of five. 1 halibut instead of three. Use a net instead of a gaff and respect life instead of being killers who just want to overload their freezers and have so much fish they are donating it away to the neighborhood.

3...


So you think two guys going out on their boats and taking home 10 yellow tail is taking what they will eat and throwing back the rest?

I think it's senseless slaughter and wanting to brag on the internet.

Oh well, you're giving the same excuse.... commercials do more harm.

If indeed that were the case, (which it isn't because there are so many PB'ers and sport boats doing the same thing every day which adds up-there have been studies shown that sport caught fish delete more fish stock for certain species than the commercials), does it make it right to excuse what you are doing because somebody else is doing it in much greater scale?

I think not.

By the way I've been lurking this site as well as Allcoast.com since 2005 and I read most of the reports and see the same guys who go out every week and take home 20 to 50 fish every weekend. These are the guys who put up photo-esssays of their trip. They are vastly outnumbered by the guys who take an equal amount of fish but do not do the photo essay on the internet. One can only imagine. Take 2 yellowtail instead of five. Take 1 halibut instead of 3. 1 WSB instead of 3. Repeat every week. Chance are, you own some rods, own a boat, and enjoy the sport, the time you go fishing will not be your last time and especially in the peak season.

Let the fish live, to fight another day and to go make more fishies. That is not a hard thing to do.


Sounds like bitching to me!!!!

If I ever fished the salt, or EVEN HAD the SKILLZ to catch limits on fish, you bet your sweet patootie i'm keeping my fish. My grandma loves her some fishhead soup! :Big Grin:

bassmeister
08-12-2008, 05:20 PM
So you think two guys going out on their boats and taking home 10 yellow tail is taking what they will eat and throwing back the rest?

I think it's senseless slaughter and wanting to brag on the internet.

Oh well, you're giving the same excuse.... commercials do more harm.

If indeed that were the case, (which it isn't because there are so many PB'ers and sport boats doing the same thing every day which adds up-there have been studies shown that sport caught fish delete more fish stock for certain species than the commercials), does it make it right to excuse what you are doing because somebody else is doing it in much greater scale?

I think not.

By the way I've been lurking this site as well as Allcoast.com since 2005 and I read most of the reports and see the same guys who go out every week and take home 20 to 50 fish every weekend. These are the guys who put up photo-esssays of their trip. They are vastly outnumbered by the guys who take an equal amount of fish but do not do the photo essay on the internet. One can only imagine. Take 2 yellowtail instead of five. Take 1 halibut instead of 3. 1 WSB instead of 3. Repeat every week. Chance are, you own some rods, own a boat, and enjoy the sport, the time you go fishing will not be your last time and especially in the peak season.

Let the fish live, to fight another day and to go make more fishies. That is not a hard thing to do. My good friend and fishing partner just returned last week from fishing Alaska. Before he came back like he always does he went to the canneries to have his fish taken care of. He stated that allot of the commercial boaters were actually turned away because to many commercial boats have overwhelmed the canneries with WAAAAY to much fish. Goes to show why we can't even get any salmon fishing in California. So go figure Sam I Am.

Ricky-Ray
08-12-2008, 05:47 PM
After reading this I have a new passion in life now. I shall start to save the live's of the sardine's....by hooking onto one yellowtail at a time with a squid.:Envious:

BIGRED KILLA
08-12-2008, 06:05 PM
Lol




Bigred

bsp
08-12-2008, 06:15 PM
Those guys should not be insulted in any way. There were six people and they kept 24 fish (16 albacore, 6 yellowfin, 1 Dorado, and 1 Yellowtail), which is way under the limit for each of them. An individual can keep 10 albacore and 10 Bluefin in addition to the 20 other fish ( up to 10 of which can be any tuna besides albacore or bluefin) when fishing in California waters. In other words, each of these guys kept 10% of their possible daily limit of fish. Hardly over fishing if you look at the numbers, and, unlike people (SAMIAM), numbers are not influenced by personal bias.
When I go on a party boat fishing trip, I am going to keep most of what I catch because of the fact that I go on party boats so rarely due to money. More importantly, I really like eating what I catch. I will release most of the calicos I catch, but two or three will come home to make tacos. I will hopefully be able to bring home some tuna in a week when I go on my second ever overnighter. Yellowfin and dorado are my favorite fish to eat, so I will be filleting and freezing them. The only surf fish I keep are legal halibut because they taste good.
If I go fishing for largemouth bass, surf perch, corbina (one a summer comes home for tacos), or native trout I will release 99% of them. If they are bleeding and legal to keep they get kept.
What I am trying to get at is that it is ok to keep fish if: The fish are going to be eaten by people and you are not breaking any laws by keeping said fish.

I know that they kept a higher percent of their daily albacore limit, but I did not think it mattered.