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GIWHITEY
03-16-2008, 04:29 PM
Okay, here's the deal. Loan. Approved. Amount. Under $15,000. New or Used. Doesn't matter, as long as it's under 20'. Main use of boat? Local fishing, of course, but also to be able to bring down to the beach side (Long Beach) in the canals and cruise now and then. I need simple, user friendly and RELIABLE. I have sellers banging down my door but all they do is give me a headache and alot of misguided information because they want the sale.

If anyone would be willing to take some time to walk me through some basics without the bull#$@#$% I would be eternally grateful...Anaheim boat show is in 2 weeks.
Email is GIWHITEY@ca.rr.com
Thanks
GI

Cap'n Ron
03-17-2008, 07:45 AM
Okay, here's the deal. Loan. Approved. Amount. Under $15,000. New or Used. Doesn't matter, as long as it's under 20'. Main use of boat? Local fishing, of course, but also to be able to bring down to the beach side (Long Beach) in the canals and cruise now and then. I need simple, user friendly and RELIABLE. I have sellers banging down my door but all they do is give me a headache and alot of misguided information because they want the sale.

If anyone would be willing to take some time to walk me through some basics without the bull#$@#$% I would be eternally grateful...Anaheim boat show is in 2 weeks.
Email is GIWHITEY@ca.rr.com
Thanks
GI

Yo Whitey,
PM sent

CR

Khmerfishing
03-17-2008, 11:51 AM
Momma gave the go ahead to buy a boat and a need the same advice...I have my eyes set on the Bayliner 195 year 2003...

Cap'n Ron
03-17-2008, 05:30 PM
Nother PM sent.

Hey BrokenRod, you wanna join in?

I'm waiting.

CR

Big Ed
03-17-2008, 09:41 PM
http://fishingnetwork.net/forum1/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13833&p=168335#p155045

2003 Larson SEI 210 Ski / Fish

Email me if you want a full set of photos!

Thanks; Big Ed! el.cazares@verizon.net

Tail Chaser
03-18-2008, 10:06 AM
Nother PM sent.

Hey BrokenRod, you wanna join in?

I'm waiting.

CR
Ive been busy working on the house.Painting,Rebuilding porch,etc.
About one day away from prepping the boat :)
April 1st will be ready for some WSB,Halibut,Ling hunting.
Sorry I have not gotten back to you on the PM Ron.
Ive been off the computer.
Check out the flurrys Sunday March 17th at my house.
Puts a damper on getting things done.

Hey GIWHITEY
Most reliable,
#1 inboard... Poor slow speed maneuvering. Very rare on tiny fishing boats.
#2 Four stroke outboard... Hanging off the back of boat. Gets in the way.
#3 sterndrive. Lots of parts with them drives. On small boats, engine cowling is in the way also.
A Fourstroke outboard powered center console fishing boat is as low maintenance as they get on a little boat
Things are basically all gelcoat and fibreglass. No other bells/whistles to maintain.
Could probably get a cruiser type boat cheaper. (More of them around)
They usually have lots of seating, And some bells/whistles to maintain.
If your going offshore. The most important thing is, The boat sits high out of the water.
Having waves break inside of the boat is a very bad thing. A problem with some outboard Powered boats. (Stern is to low)
My express cruiser has Four flush mount rod holders for trolling, etc. A 23 gal bait tank.
And Six more rod holders up on the arch. With room for two more.
Knowing what you want/need in a fishing boat. You can look at some other boat designs. (if the price is right) Then decide if its worth the time/effort/doable converting a boat over for what you want
I paid 16k for my 26fter. 07 models are going for 83k.
I would personally want a min of a 20fter in the ocean. They usually sit higher, And you
won't have to run for cover every time a little whitecap shows up.

Was almost pissed.
Thought our pics only came out the size of the Avatars.
Need to left click on the pics to see full sized.
Can see the backyard 3/17/08 snow flurrys there. So Ca. is actually having a winter.

Hey Ron,
Got on the FNN network again.
Should have finished painting the house first.
Looks like the fishys will live another day :)

vanillagurilla
03-18-2008, 10:26 AM
i would go with a 20-22' deep V aluminum hull outboard boat. if anything ever did go wrong with the motor its easy to fix/repair and so is the hull. its also a hell of a lot lighter than a glass boat. you could go pretty much anywhere you wanted with a deep V aluminum. even catalina on a calm day.

BingJr
03-18-2008, 04:02 PM
I have seen Big Ed's ride and it is in pristine condition. It is a fish n ski boat set up for fisherman. Big Ed is a fisherman. It would have a nice layout for the Canal Cruising etc etc.
I have actually seen it and can vouch for it. It is in great condition.

Cap'n Ron
03-19-2008, 07:24 AM
i would go with a 20-22' deep V aluminum hull outboard boat. if anything ever did go wrong with the motor its easy to fix/repair and so is the hull. its also a hell of a lot lighter than a glass boat. you could go pretty much anywhere you wanted with a deep V aluminum. even catalina on a calm day.

Oh really?

Outboard Motors are easy to fix? Aluminum easy to repair?
What are you smokin? And is your sage wisdom come from ownwership of both types of hulls or what you heard?

The only outboard I'll own is a small kicker on up to 25hp MERC. Cause thats what I know.

Outboards are easy to fix,,,,,,,,,,,

btw VG, what is your current boat? What were your last two boats?

CR

Fishtaco
03-19-2008, 10:21 AM
Just keep this in mind when you own a boat new or used.

BOAT (BREAK OUT ANOTHER THOUSAND)

Salt or fresh water, just keep a thousand on the side for maintenance from wear and tear.

BIGRED KILLA
03-19-2008, 08:45 PM
If i was going to spend 15 thousand I would go with a Bay runner with a Yamaha out board good little boats to fish local and the islands.










Bigred

Cap'n Ron
03-20-2008, 08:11 AM
Hey BR,,,,,

This thing about no control at slow speed is not all that accurate. A little bit of time on the water and patience and you soon learn the dynamics of the single screw rudder maneuvers.
I can side slip my 20ftr along the dock without any problems.

I do love the twins and do manage some time on a Trojan at the wheel, or I should say the "Sticks".

CR

They're Coming, are you READY?

one_leg
03-20-2008, 08:32 AM
What were your last two boats?

CR





I think I owned a rubber ducky once?

Tail Chaser
03-20-2008, 10:08 AM
Hey BR,,,,,

This thing about no control at slow speed is not all that accurate. A little bit of time on the water and patience and you soon learn the dynamics of the single screw rudder maneuvers.
I can side slip my 20ftr along the dock without any problems.

I do love the twins and do manage some time on a Trojan at the wheel, or I should say the "Sticks".

CR

They're Coming, are you READY?
CR,
There already here. Wheres your fish porn?
Im prepping the the boat now.
My single screw sucks around the docks with the Alpha 1 drive.
Boats to big/heavy to run the prop that boat needs with that drive.
Sure runs good motoring through the really ugly conditions out at sea though. :)
Sure be glad when I repower with the 383ci/Bravo 2 drive
HD unit designed for pushing house boats and heavy fishing boats on plane
Need to wear out this 3yr old Alpha 1 drive a little more first.
May do a little BUTT chasin out of MDR next week with some boat testing.
Followed up with a 2 or 3 day WSB hunt at Catalina the first week of April.
Still have a fuel flow gauge to install. And while the boats apart. May coat the decks with non slip truck bedliner coating. That could delay things another week :(

Cap'n Ron
03-20-2008, 02:55 PM
Boat is ready and prepped.

Gotta be in Vegas at the end of April, biz deal, they always want to see the strippers not the striper's. Dang it.


CR

Cap'n Ron
03-20-2008, 02:58 PM
I think I owned a rubber ducky once?

Speaking of rubber duckies One_Leg, do you have a yellow wet suit?

CR

Cap'n Ron
03-20-2008, 03:00 PM
[QUOTE=BIGRED KILLA;161419]If i was going to spend 15 thousand I would go with a Bay runner with a Yamaha out board good little boats to fish local and the islands.

I can get a whole lot of boat for 15k in this market.

CR

BIGRED KILLA
03-20-2008, 05:48 PM
[quote=BIGRED KILLA;161419]If i was going to spend 15 thousand I would go with a Bay runner with a Yamaha out board good little boats to fish local and the islands.

I can get a whole lot of boat for 15k in this market.

CR
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Ya your right Ron in this market you can get a old trawler or cruiser for around 15k.


But like he said he wants to stay under 20 feet and doesn't want to spend know more then 15k are you a dealer or something Ron what whole lot of boat would you get for 15k.





Bigred

Tail Chaser
03-20-2008, 08:20 PM
Boat is ready and prepped.

Gotta be in Vegas at the end of April, biz deal, they always want to see the strippers not the striper's. Dang it.


CR
Maybe you could pick up a sparkly Elvis Presley suite for One Leg.
He sure would make a good Marlin teaser with that suite on.
With the trolling line hooked to his One Toe.
Bet we could catch all kinds of pelagic fish
.

Cap'n Ron
03-21-2008, 07:23 PM
[quote=BIGRED KILLA;161419]If i was going to spend 15 thousand I would go with a Bay runner with a Yamaha out board good little boats to fish local and the islands.

I can get a whole lot of boat for 15k in this market.

CR
Reply With Quote

Ya your right Ron in this market you can get a old trawler or cruiser for around 15k.


But like he said he wants to stay under 20 feet and doesn't want to spend know more then 15k are you a dealer or something Ron what whole lot of boat would you get for 15k

Bigred

In Craigslist San Diego


1994 Bayliner 25' Trophy
Twin 175
Black Max
Newer 3 Scoop Bait Tank
Great Trailer
Ready for Fishing!

15K

And thats just one for instance and yeah I think thats a lot of boat for 15k

CR

And another off craigslist.

TURNKEY 30 x 10.5 Family Fish or Cruise ***** - $15000
Los Angeles

BIGRED KILLA
03-21-2008, 08:21 PM
I have so many stories on bay liner Ron that i cant tell because i have one for sale 1997 20 foot Trophy with a 120 merc cuddy cabin walk around very clean its on boat trader for 9,900.










Bigred

one_leg
03-21-2008, 08:30 PM
Speaking of rubber duckies One_Leg, do you have a yellow wet suit?

CR

Nope, I gots a Camo freediving suit, and a blue/black drysuit.

Cap'n Ron
03-23-2008, 07:50 AM
Nope, I gots a Camo freediving suit, and a blue/black drysuit.

Bingo, your my new teaser in the Black and Blue! We'll glue rhinestones and streamers on later.

CR

Cap'n Ron
03-23-2008, 08:21 AM
I have so many stories on bay liner Ron that i cant tell because i have one for sale 1997 20 foot Trophy with a 120 merc cuddy cabin walk around very clean its on boat trader for 9,900.

Bigred

Bigred,

I think a Bayliner is a great boat! I have known lots of owners with Bayliners in the backyard or garage. Even some with em on the water. Like I say it's a great boat, as long as it's NIMBY! Or IMDW! I run Inboards, I love Diesels, I LOVE Keels. Riding a boat at 30MPH + is exciting, but I get beat up by it and hurt for a day or two after that. I like the steady, stable ride of an Inboard running on a keel. 15, 20mph is fine by me. I'm in no hurry to screw things up.

Bigred, I've been active in boating for 45 yrs. I have "stories" on a lot of different "brands".
Heck, I've got stories of good friends doing stupid stuff or just not paying attn for a split second.

To each, his own. I've learned the hard way. Hey, as long as your smiling at the end of your day, when your head hits the pillow, and all is good, what else matters? Certainly, not my opinion.

CR

Somebody will snatch your ride up, patience, buyers market and all.

one_leg
03-24-2008, 01:09 AM
Does anybody got a boat they wanna give me?

And Ron, if you try to Bedazzle my drysuit you're gonna be black and blue. :p

Cap'n Ron
03-24-2008, 06:15 AM
Does anybody got a boat they wanna give me?

And Ron, if you try to Bedazzle my drysuit you're gonna be black and blue. :p


You're the one that wants a Marlin, just trying to help. And I think it would make a good youtbe video,

One_Legging for Marlin!


CR

majesty714
04-02-2008, 02:35 AM
its kool they have brand new boats for a good price.. i have a mako 17.i love it take it to catalina when i want.. bass pro has a mako 18 for like around 23000 ... which i think is a sweet price for a brand new boat